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1886 P Morgan

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Ok, here is a fairly common coin I thought was very nice with some golden rim toning on both obverse and reverse. It caught my eye because it seems to have some highly reflective qualities to it, I was worried though it may have been cleaned. It just didnt have any abrasive marks or that chrome-like quality I have been noticing with cleaned coins. Hopefully it looks as good to you guys, I still am trying to learn how to spot PL and DMPL, not that this coin is either. It was labeled BU and I got it in one of my recent bundle deals. I am interested in knowing what you all think.....

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 Posted 11/26/2013  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a 64 to me.
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Hard to say when pictured inside the holder.
Looks like it has a chance at 65.
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I'll go lower than the others at 63
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MS-63.
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A very nice 64.
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Thanks for your input everyone, I feel like it is 64 in hand. I also feel like it is SPL, but I will have to take it out of the sleeve to confirm. I did take some pictures of it reflecting on a book of my daughters with the sleeve, I may post them for fun to see if you guys think it may have a chance at being semi proof like. I definitely want to send this in to be graded either way.
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It in no way looks proof like.
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Yeh, I figured it isn't, I think it has too much cartwheel luster be proof like. Like I said, still trying to learn how to tell the
PL coins apart in real life. Just hard to find ones locally to compare with...
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They will stand out for sure. When you have one you will know. Frosted devices and mirrored fields. I only have one PL but you can pick it out of the other morgans.
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SPL's can throw you off...
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Lincoln, I am probablly doing this all wrong, but I took these to demonstrate how eye catching this coin was, not to disprove you or anyone because you all know what you are talking about. Don't beat me up too bad! I dont think the holder is too reflective, even though I would prefer to do this with the coin out of its holder. I thought I read somewhere to use a 45-90 degree angle and use a small note card to show the letters on the mirrored surfaces of the coin. So the My Little Pony book and a more 45 degree angle than 90 degree angle is what happened! Anyways, I think your right Fade, SPL seems really hard to spot. What do you think this coin may grade at? You guys rock!

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I'm waiting to see it out of the 2x2 prior to rendering an opinion on grade.

A lot of people don't understand how difficult it is to get a PL designation on some years. '86 is pretty common. Here's an example of a raw coin I have that is SPL, but won't make PL.

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Anywhere in the 63-64 range in my opinion
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Oh man, more motivation to take it out! I should be able to do that tomorrow, granted my light is working (no heavy clouds). Thanks for the example too, I totally get the exclusiveness of the designation in common years. Come to think of it, I don't see the big 3 (in coin talk that is) throwing SPL on their slabs out there at all that I can recollect. I probably am wrong but I don't recall seeing SPL or semi proof like on slabs. I will go look at some auctions and NGC's site....
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It's not an official designation, no, it's just used by collectors to describe coins with PL qualities that just aren't good enough to get there.
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