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Where Do Dealers Send Scrap Metal?

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Hey all,

I often wonder where coin dealers send their scrap metal and junk silver. Anyone know?

Also, I often wonder how they stay in business. For instance, most of the coin shops I visit have had the same basic inventory for years. Is the bread and butter in margins on silver and gold?

Russ
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I know the Golden State Mint is pretty popular if they wish to resell the silver as .999 otherwise just any silver refinery.
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Russ,
I suspect that dealers who buy junk bullion have a smelter or two lined up. The dealer accumulates the coins until a certain amount is reached and the off they go.
I also suspect that most dealers do not repackage the coins into bags for sale to the public but perhaps some do.
X dollars face value for Y dollars.
I had a good experience or two at a smelter within a reasonable distance from my home. It cuts out the dealer as a middle man.

Old school dealers are loath to do much of their business in bullion but that has become the norm. If not bread and butter at least a substantial chunk of business today.
Especially for the remaining brick and mortar shops.

Longing for the good ol' days . . .
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Great, thanks. Often when I visit a coin shop and ask to look at IHCs, the reaction is often very accepting and often they urge me to sit down and pick through their coins with a loupe. They are happy someone is just there to look through the coins. For the two dealers I've used over the last 2-3 years, I'm the only one who has bought any of their IHCs. I see the same coins in the cases, and it often seems people are 95% of the time looking to sell or buy PMs. In fact, one dealer has hardly any coins in his cases at all... it is mostly antique silverware.

Thanks for the tips and info.
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Sounds as if your 'good' dealers are great people.
That same smelter that I mentioned has a small case for special items. I noticed
two 1884CC dollars from the GSA sale. Well, he offered to hold them for me and
a few days later I traded for them.
One of the two I traded to a member in Sweden (We can't find them over here!)
for an 1897-S Half to complete my poor set.
Nice things happen, but this hobby requires both luck and patience.

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I've never understood this. Why would my dealer send anything to the smelter, when he's already making on average 10-20% over melt, through his customers? This guy has a hard time holding ANY inventory including gold. He's not the only game in town, but believe me he does not need to sit on anything!
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Why would my dealer send anything to the smelter, when he's already making on average 10-20% over melt, through his customers?


If it sells well theres really not much of a need. If sales have been slow though and they need some immediate money its a good way to get a guaranteed fast sale which does have a value to it.

Most coin shops would probably prefer not to, but if you need to pay the bills you need to pay the bills.
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