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Zeno - Concordia - Ae2 - Very Rare

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Firstly, I've been in need of a Zeno for ages. Secondly, almost all coins of Zeno are AE4 in size - teensy dots.

Well, this has Zenos name readable and its big. Bigger than the average roman coin anyway. the same seller often has Leo and Theodosius II AE2s for sale, but Zeno is much much rarer. Might be worth recording with the BM to see if they can get any legend off of it - the full legend is not definitively known for the type.

£11...quite a lot. But hey, its a gap which would cost £11 to fill with a near blank monogram dot.

Zeno---Concordia---Ae2---Very-Rare
Zeno---Concordia---Ae2---Very-Rare
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 Posted 12/01/2013  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I almost got one of these. Unforunately it got lost in the mail. I think I know the seller you are talking about.
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Yeah, he must have a detector in the area. He comes up with a lot of them.

Seems that no-ones so fussed with the ultra late Roman emperors. Heres some information anyway:

Zeno ruled at the time when the Western Empire fell for good. Leo I had elevated Julius Nepos to the purple in the west, but due to weather Nepos couldnt reach Rome until after Leo's death. Nepos reached Rome and deposed Glycerius (198/207) (who took the purple from Olybrius (199/207)), supported by Zeno (115/207) but was forced out by the political turmoil. The German leaders of the army elevated Romulus Augustus to the purple but the empire was done for good and support for the new emperor was not found outside Rome, shattering the empire irrepairably.

Odoacer was the de facto ruler as the commander of the army and attempted to patch the empire. He sent message to Zeno to request that Zeno took control of the whole empire - at the same time, Nepos sent envoys to request the help of the army to seize italy. Zeno responded that Odacer should recognise Nepos and anything Odoacer wanted (the title Patria mostly) would be granted by the two. Nepos never returned to italy.

Nepos was then brutally cut down by assassins whilst living in Dalmatia. Odoacer marched into Dalmatia to persue the assassins (cunningly taking Dalmatia under his control from the Senate's power). He then returned to the original plan, recognising Zeno as the ruler of all of the empire (both east and west), though the force of Rome was miniscule at this time and the surviving provinces teetered on the edge. Odoacer started using the title REX at this time. The Western Empire dissapeared, leaving Zeno as the ruler of a unified but much smaller empire.

Zeno had some real troubles. A small uprising in Constantinople nearly destroyed the empire and he only held back Vandal and Goth attacks with the promise of gold (the Goths being easily able to overrun Constantinople with their armies). He was overthrown by Basilliscus for a short period, for example, due to the weakness of the empire at the time.

At his death, Zeno had put the empire in a stronger position and his successor, Anastasius, reformed the coinage to the big Byzantine sizes and is commonly considered the first emperor of the Byzantines. The Byzantine empire held on for another thousand years - the Roman senate, founded at the start of the Roman Empire in 753BC, was moved to Constantinople and outlived the Romans, finally being disbanded in the 13th century, its last edict being dated 1204AD elevating a new emperor in the 4th Crusade, 1957 years after its founding.
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How do you spot these things?
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