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Genuine Julius Caesar Denarius?

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 Posted 12/04/2013  5:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I dont know whether I sould be happy or disappointed:
I made a bid on a denarius of julius caesar, and won it for just 45 euro's incl shipping! This is ridiculously low so I cant believe its genuine.

Its a spanish seller, and I think he found it by himself. e is offering a lot of coins of serveral ages with the same sand look, which convinces me he found them.
The description was, like all his coins in spanish, Julio Cesar.

I know the picture is very bad but I still have hopes its genuine! fingers crossed! If so, I would be VERY VERY happy!

Weight seems right: 3,7 grams

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12/04/2013 5:20 pm
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 Posted 12/04/2013  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The picture looks porours. I cant say much on the design, but the letters and the beading looks fine. Id have kept clear of it though, doesn't sit right with me. I think you'll have tro post better pictures when it arrives - its a very commonly copied issue.
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 Posted 12/04/2013  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't like to say, I will keep my fingers crossed for you.
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 Posted 12/04/2013  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know, I'm not sure either.. I've asked for better photos before I'm going to pay to check
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 Posted 12/04/2013  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The picture is a bit small. Anyway that you can enlarge it? From what I can see without better pictures I have doubts that it's real.
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 Posted 12/04/2013  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say with those pictures. The shape of the elephant doesn't look quite right but I'm not an expert on the series. Have you checked the fake reports on Forvm and ForgeryNetwork?
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 Posted 12/04/2013  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No disrespect and I dont want to sound mean but you definitely should have checked the fake reports and/or learned how to spot fakes of this type before you bid, not after winning it. At the very least, posted it on here before the auction ended so we could have given you the opinions we are giving you now, so then you would have been able to make a more educated choice (dont worry we try not to bid on coins that other members are planning on getting). Sure you could contact the seller and tell them it is a fake and demand a refund, but that may turn into a hassle or a bigger issue (seller not believing you and so not refunding, for example). Again, I'm not trying to seem mean or condescending, just giving you some advice to help you in the future.

As for the coin itself, it looks more counterfeit than real from the photo. I would have enough doubt about it to stay clear of it.
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12/04/2013 6:34 pm
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 Posted 12/05/2013  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand you, I really do, no worrries.
Im looking for an julius caesar for months now, checked the fake reports but couldnt find this piece!
I asked for better photos, seller replied he mad this one by scanner, If I dont want this coin it wasnt a problem.. disappointed by the low sales price?
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 Posted 12/05/2013  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dutch, it might be the photo, but your elephant only seems to have 3 legs? The closest I have found is at
http://www.coinproject.com/coin_det...?coin=286260
and the elephant is quite different.

Is 45 euros too much to pay for a fake example? Will he accept a return?
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 Posted 12/05/2013  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3 legs? No I think the left leg isn't stucked on the coin.(if genuine?)

Here is a link of the seller: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...271337637223
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 Posted 12/05/2013  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No pish, I believe its this coin: http://coinproject.com/coin_detail.php?coin=286453
Ill wait for better photos, then I shall decide whether to pay or not.
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 Posted 12/05/2013  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I want one but dont own one. Althought this one appears to be a fake. I havent checked for a match, but it just doesn't look right to me.Sorry Dutch. I look forward to seeing your better pictures.
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 Posted 12/05/2013  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont have high hopes either, well I shall wait for the pictures. Then I need to pay just 100 euro's extra ;-)
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 Posted 12/05/2013  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the 100 euros extra for?
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 Posted 12/05/2013  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% genuine julius ;)
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