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Norway 10 øre 1937/27--An Undocumented Overdate?

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I specialize in overdates, so whenever I find an unattributed variety, I get sorta excited. The coin below is listed on a Norwegian variety site as "10 øre 1937, big 37".
However, there's a lot more going on with this coin--an underlying date! At first I thought it was simply a repunched date--common for this era in Norway coins.

The more I looked (below), the less it appeared to be a 37/37. Another clue is the prior year these 10 øre pieces were struck was in 1927. So, using a tracing of a "2" from a 1927 10 øre piece, I notice the top loop and lower left corner of the 2 closely are a close match (light arrows). The mark underneath the 7 supports this may also be a 37/27!

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Nice find!
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Fascinating specialty you have chosen!! I can see how this would be much fun and well worth the time/effort! Kudos...
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Thanks...I've learned a lot of patience and persistence. I was already a "details person" when I started on overdates.
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Hmm, 37/27 or 37/29
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Numismat--I'm more inclined to think 37/27 since 1927 was the previous year these were struck?
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Yes that makes sense, but the outline around the 7 almost looks like it would fit the 9. Have you tried juxtaposing it like the other numeral? Just curious.
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Numismat, I think that's worth thinking about. While there wasn't a 10 ore struck in 1929, perhaps the 1939 will give an approximate idea?
I actually consider a 3/2 a bit more convincing than a 7/7...due to some very specific datapoints under the 3.
One thing I do notice--the 9 is composed entirely of curves. So, one would logically assume a 7/9 would leave some traces of curved marks?
A similar scenario could be the 2 Ore 1937/6 (bottom picture). In this case, all the underlying marks for that overdate are curved.
Granted, the marks underneath the 7 are indistinct, but do they follow the top of a 7 more than a 9? I'll just mull this one over.

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The leftover marks don't exactly seem to fit a 7. I mean the fact that there is evidence well above the high point of the left side of the numeral and below.
And since other denominations were struck in 1929, it's plausible that 10 ore dies were made that year and possibly altered the next time they were used in 1937. This would be quite interesting
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The leftover marks don't exactly seem to fit a 7. I mean the fact that there is evidence well above the high point of the left side of the numeral and below.
Good observation--it's sure a high digit, and since the last 2 digits were impressed into the die individually, it simply might be a die blunder they didn't get around to re-use until 1937. This could explain why the remainning 7 was punched higher--to cover up the mistake.

I feel I've made a good case for the 3/2, and I think my curve arguement for a 9 has some merit, but I'm not convinced either way on the last digit. If you're seeing some evidence of a 9, point it out--I could easily be missing something obvious.
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I guess a 9 wouldn't be an exact match either, so die blunder is looking like the strongest possibility.
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