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Struck Through Grease Both Sides? Die Adjustment Strike?

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 Posted 12/11/2013  05:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinCbass to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello - here is one that has me confused. This appears to be similar to a capped die, but it appears that the capped die was on both sides - which isn't possible as far as I know. So Something else happened and I don't know enough about errors to figure it out. When I first saw the one side of the coin, I figured it was a struck through capped die of sorts, but then I flipped it over, it threw me for a loop and I figured I better ask the experts. On second thought - did somehtign happen with the collar? - the rim is raised somewhat and if so, could the strike be weak on both sides since the metal squished out? The rim does not appear to be as pronounced as a railroad coin, so I don't think this is it though. Please Let me know.

It does not appear to be PMD as the rim of the coin is raised somewhat more than usual (like a coin that has a collar error?).

My dad took a look at picks and he suggested that I weigh it to see if its a thin planchet or he also suggested that it might have been struck through a lot of grease on both sides. Or his most likely explanation was a die adjustment strike.

I really have no idea. Help is appreciated. THANKS!

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12/11/2013 06:26 am
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 Posted 12/11/2013  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think this is a die pressure adjustment strike.

If it was, the fields would look struck flat as with which we would all be familiar, but sharp detail on the high points of the design would not be present.

In this case, the whole surface of the coin seems as if it had been interfered with. The current texture of the surfaces both in the fields and on the design is the same, and in no way compares with any part of a newly minted coin.

What has happened to this piece I do not know, but I feel certain that it is not a die pressure adjustment trial.
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 Posted 12/11/2013  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a struck through error. (Grease) The rims are the give away. They are raised and full. On a low pressure strike the rims are not there. It reminds me of a coin I bought years ago thinking it was a trial error, but found out later is wasn't.
This one is a low pressure strike:
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Note the edges of the dies hadn't pressed down during the strike to form the rim area.
Here is a very strong Struck Through Grease error:
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You can see where the outside edges dies formed the rims.
So when you see them side by side, it is more apparent.
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On a faked low pressure or faked grease strike, something else happens:
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Note the coin was sanded down. The rims are missing. Thus the OP's coin is a struck through error.
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12/11/2013 08:57 am
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 Posted 12/11/2013  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCbass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys. Man - I keep findin some cool errors lately
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 Posted 12/12/2013  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check the diameter carefully. It does look a lot like a Struck Through Grease error BUT notice, especially on the reverse, that the lettering is scrunched right up against the rim with no space between the lettering and the rim. That makes me think this is a form of Dryer Coin. If it isn't a Dryer Coin then it is a grease strike, the strong rims eliminate the low pressure strike possibility.
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 Posted 12/12/2013  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the obverse you can still see the rolling metal lines on it. If it was a Dryer Coin, these would be gone.
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 Posted 12/13/2013  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCbass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to have proper diameter.

It does not have the "feel/look" of a Dryer Coin.
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Quote:
On the obverse you can still see the rolling metal lines on it. If it was a Dryer Coin, these would be gone.

Good point.
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