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 Posted 12/12/2013  5:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GTOJim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm a complete novice so I apologize if I'm not using the correct verbiage. I have two questions. In the front image there is clearly two off center strikes. Also there is what to me looks like some kind of third strike. What is the semi circular recess going through the bottom double strike?

There is a scratch on the back of the coin which looks to me like it came from the mint. Is this something that detracts from the coins value?

Thanks in advance for any and all opinions.

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 Posted 12/12/2013  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a sweet error, do I see a double mint mark as well.WOW
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 Posted 12/12/2013  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


That is one nice find!

I don't know about that possible third strike, but it appears to be the right size.

I doubt that the scratch will detract from the value of the coin. Having most of the date there is probably the most valuable part.
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 Posted 12/12/2013  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
super awesome error. I'm no expert so i'll let the people who know this stuff pitch in.
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 Posted 12/12/2013  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTOJim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are two pictures of the mint mark. What looks like a second mint mark doesn't show at all angles. I'm a novice
so offering my opinion wouldn't mean much unless it's something that's very obvious.

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 Posted 12/13/2013  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
super cool coin and welcome!
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 Posted 12/13/2013  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks weird to me. (besides the fact that its was struck multiple times) Do you have pics straight on and not at angles? Also is it encapsulated?
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Firstly, it looks like a double-struck on a damaged planchet. I believe the semicircular indentation is probably a part of this damage. It looks like it's in a slab. If it is, what does the slab say?

The scratch shouldn't lower the value too much, if any, as it blends in with the roughness of the damaged planchet and is more than likely considered market acceptable.

In addition, being able to date the coin will help the value immensely. From the pictures it looks like a 1964-D, though it's hard to tell.

Overall, it's a very cool error. Congrats on the find, and welcome to the forum!
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 Posted 12/13/2013  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah...the unstruck part of the planchet looked odd to me. Could that damage to the planchet be the reasoning on why it was not seated properly and then double struck?
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 Posted 12/13/2013  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTOJim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everyone for all of your comments.

Yes it's encapsulated. A dealer recommended having it graded as he suspected it might be counterfeit. Description is 1964 D, MS-60 Details,DBL Struck, both sides off-center, scratched.

I was looking for your opinions, thinking they might have missed something during the grading process.
Didn't intend to mislead anyone. Honestly I didn't even notice the damaged planchet, if that's what it is until after it was graded.
Which raises another question. Shouldn't they have mentioned it, something like "stuck on damaged planchet" during the grading process?
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 Posted 12/13/2013  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an awesome error!!!
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 Posted 12/13/2013  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTOJim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Per request here are two straight on shots. One taken with my camera, not very good quality. The other taken with a USB digital microscope, better quality but the coin doesn't look round.
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 Posted 12/13/2013  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As ErrorCoins222 correctly noted, the planchet was heavily damaged before the two off-center strikes were delivered. This may be a head-to-base saddle strike. The distance between the two off-center strikes, the orientation of the two designs, and the absence of a slide zone in the smaller of the two strikes are consistent with this interpretation. However, the absence of buckling between the two strikes and the presence of a slide zone in the larger strike leaves some doubt.
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