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Papal States Medal Pius Ix 1847

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Here is a medal I bought recently as part of an auction lot.

It's very dark, so I present in several guises.
It's the same medal as http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/coi...Default.aspx but my specimen looks rougher, in particular the bust truncation; - the letters underneath are vestigial.
I'm wondering if my specimen is cast and why anyone would do that, and if so, how much it affects the value. The VCoins specimen looks struck to me.

My specimen weighs 36.72g, the VCoins piece 44g.
Comments, please ?
Raw obverse:
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Lightened obverse:
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Obverse truncation:
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Lightened reverse:


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 Posted 12/17/2013  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've owned one of these in the past along with a number of Papal medals. Contemporary copies abound for most of the medals, not as forgeries per se but as devotional objects.
Let me put it this way, in Catholic countries in the 18th & 19th Centuries the Pope was a revered figure, in modern terms he would be a celebrity. Just as pictures, posters, magazines and books are available for fans now, medals filled that function 1-200 years ago. And just like today not everyone could afford the top of the range individually struck bronze medal, but would buy something from the second or third tier.
The dies were copied almost the moment the original medals became available, and yes casts were also made, some of which are of beautiful quality and fetch good money.
Yours I'm reasonably sure is a cast but I'll try and find a picture of the one I had to compare.
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alganbagerap,
Thanks, that's very interesting.
All the other religious medals I have are struck, though there is somewhere a Prussian one that may be a cast.
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