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 Posted 12/24/2013  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sap for the clarification!
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 Posted 12/25/2013  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool thread great coins!

I have only one coin from this era. It is Islamic and that's about all I know. Picked it out of a junk bin at a pawn shop:0

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 Posted 12/25/2013  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mvojnovic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I noticed the Cyrllic text immediately, but could not place the coin. This may not be the best place to discuss this, but what's the story behind this coin with Cyrillic text? It looks very old, almost Byzantine..


As Sap said its Stefan Dusan (king 1331-1346, emperor 1346-1355). The inscription is: Stefan in Christ believing tzar (emperor). So this coin was made somewhere between 1346 and 1355.

And for more Serbian medieval coins look at my avatar pic


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those are fantastic coins john! what's the middle(ish) coin with the king reaching to the man annd the text on the reverse?


I'm glad this thread was started, I got this coin today and wouldn't have posted it here otherwise. I personally cut off my medieval/modern collection around 1500...so this guy goes withe the old coins.

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giovanni maria vsiconti
duchy of milan
ar grosso
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st. ambrose

biscione (emblem of house visconti...a snake devouring a man)



That snake looks like a Chinese dragon
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 Posted 12/25/2013  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That snake looks like a Chinese dragon


i thought the same thing, it's actually a "serpent"...which seems to sometimes be a dragon like creature in old mythology. so it probably is supposed to be more of a dragon than a snake.


here's another medieval coin, a 14th century bulgarian silver gosh. very "byzantineish".

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o: christ
r: ivan alexander and michael asen iv of bulgaria
1331-1555
21 mm
1.5g
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That's one of the best pre-unification Russian coins I've ever seen. Great example! How much it cost?
I myself only have one "feudal" Russian coin: a teensy tiny copper pulo of Tver (one of the latest issues of this incredibly small denomination - very roughly, 1520-1550). I probably couldn't afford a silver coin of that period


Hi J1M. Thanks! I paid $242 for it, and sold it for $200.

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This may not be the best place to discuss this, but what's the story behind this coin with Cyrillic text? It looks very old, almost Byzantine...


Hi DVCollector... This was a bit out of may area - I just bought the coin because I liked it at the time. Later I focused primarily on coins of the Lowlands, Burgundy, France and Germany.

My write up on the coin from when I sold it doesn't really explain much:

Serbia. Stefan Uroš IV Dušan. As Tsar, 1345-1355. AR gros (19 mm, 1.37 g). Christ enthroned facing / Legend in five lines. Ljubic pl. IX, 6 var. Toned good VF, slightly crude as issued.

Purported by Papal ambassadors to be a giant, perhaps close to seven feet tall, Stefan Uroš IV Dušan was the only true tsar of Serbia. He expanded Serbia's borders to their greatest extent at the cost of his southern neighbor, Byzantine Greece, thus making the Serbian Empire one of the larger states of Europe. His forceful personality did not survive him, however, and the territorial gains he made were soon lost.
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Thanks to the original how far back can we go, I started to acquire some medieval coinage. Here are a few examples:

1530 Silver Zweier (1/2 Kreuzer). Mint : Salzburg.
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1511 Hungary Denar - Vladislav II
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1513 Hungary. Wladislaw II, AR Denar. Madonna and Child.
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1512 Poland Lithuania 1/2 Grosz Sigismund I
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Sadly what I had hoped was a 1495 groschen is really and undated one from the early 1500's. I still like it.
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Hi DVCollector... This was a bit out of may area - I just bought the coin because I liked it at the time. Later I focused primarily on coins of the Lowlands, Burgundy, France and Germany.

My write up on the coin from when I sold it doesn't really explain much:

Serbia. Stefan Uroš IV Dušan. As Tsar, 1345-1355. AR gros (19 mm, 1.37 g). Christ enthroned facing / Legend in five lines. Ljubic pl. IX, 6 var. Toned good VF, slightly crude as issued.

Purported by Papal ambassadors to be a giant, perhaps close to seven feet tall, Stefan Uroš IV Dušan was the only true tsar of Serbia. He expanded Serbia's borders to their greatest extent at the cost of his southern neighbor, Byzantine Greece, thus making the Serbian Empire one of the larger states of Europe. His forceful personality did not survive him, however, and the territorial gains he made were soon lost.


you have also one other coin pic here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephe...an_of_Serbia
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Very interesting writeup on coins--thanks everyone!
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Coin of king Stefan Radoslav, first serbian coins, very very "byzantineish" as you can see inscription is in Greek.

http://www.narodnimuzej.rs/images/1...lav_PS_1.jpg

and there is lot of nice pic of Serbian and Byzantine coins on Serbian national museum web site

http://www.narodnimuzej.rs/zbirke/z...vca/?lng=lat
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This is one of my favourite coins, Elizabeth the first has some historical interest (she defeated the Spanish Armada when we really had no right to survive that attack on paper)

I also have an Edward silver coin (not got the details or photo to hand) which I bought at the London coin fair.

Medieval is a somewhat neglected area for me, though I find the coins attractive many of them aren't cheap and I can normally find something more interesting for less money in the genre of ancients. I do always tell myself I will try and get hold of some coinage from Henry VIII, but so far the right coin hasn't presented itself for the right price.

Other medieval coinage to consider are the French Fleur-de-lis coins and some of the Bulgarian coins.
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 Posted 12/26/2013  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnee82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
glad to see a thread on medieval coins. I collect Romans mainly, but here, a few months ago, I started collecting medieval-18th century pieces...now I'm hooked
it would be nice to have a sub-forum, but if there're not enough collectors here for that,perhaps a "sticky" thread for that, maybe?

here are some of mine

Saxony schildgroschen 1440-42
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Lithuania 1/2 grossus 1549
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France, Charles VIII, karolus or dizain 1483-97
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Prussia groschen 1534
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...and this fell out of Santa's pocket the other night

France, gros tournois of Philip the Fair 1285-1314


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Nice coins, Johnee82!
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I don't have too many coins from these periods but every now and then one tempts my fancy. The only one I really want right now is a quality Hogmouth

Here are three that have made their way to me.

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Triskeles Auctions and Whizb4ng,
I wish you had put captions on your photos, as I don't recognise the denominations or in some cases the rulers and I would like to learn.
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