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Pillar of the Community
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just carl,
I would really love to see your complete set in FSB. I can only dream of ever completing one, and I agree the 45-P is the hardest to obtain in true FSB. (2 loath of bread in the middle)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: The 45-P is extremely difficult to locate, but it is still far less expensive than the 16-D with FSB. If you can afford one of those, you will certainly be able to afford a 45-P. Not really. I'm just waiting to get the 16D with FSB sometime in the Spring. They run about $10 to $25 thousand at coin shows all the time. However, a 45 with FSB's in MS-67+ will go for about $30 thousand and up. The one I'm waiting for should be a MS-62 with FSB's. As to FSB's meaning, at many coin shows most dealers I talk to say Full Steel Bands. Only a few say Full Split Bands. Regardless, Red Book says SHB's or Slit Horizontal Bands since it is the Horizontal Bands that are the ones that are really important. Odd how some coins get more morarity for the Reverse than the Obverse. So few say Indian Head Nickel. Quote: I would really love to see your complete set in FSB. I can only dream of ever completing one, and I agree the 45-P is the hardest to obtain in true FSB. I'll post photos when I get the 16D with the FSB's.
Edited by just carl 12/29/2013 10:54 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: The one I'm waiting for should be a MS-62 with FSB's. Thats a tough one from TPG populations. PCGS only has 7 of those NGC probably not much more. MS 64 looks like the most common grade with MS 65 not to far behind not that any of them are common.
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Anytime you add a designation to a particular series it can make a date a KEY DATE for THE DESIGNATION. 1945 Mercury dimes is one of the best examples of this. It is common even in MS-65 (GEM) but with the designation FSB . . . 1953-S Franklin half dollar is another one look at the difference between MS-65 vs MS-65 FBL. Related to this is color on your copper coins . . . 1926-S Lincoln Cent MS-65 RED (and I mean 95% or more) well that's the crown jewels money in 6 figures. Last time I checked it was #1 in value in the series in grade MS-65 RED.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:Anytime you add a designation to a particular series it can make a date a KEY DATE for THE DESIGNATION. 1945 Mercury dimes is one of the best examples of this. And as I mentioned, with Mercury dimes there could be a MS-67 with no FSB's and a MS-62 with FSB's. Those little things are what is starting to make this hobby really nutty. Also, so many of the Mercury dimes are popping up with small and large Mint Marks. And too people are going nuts trying to find a 74 Aluminum Lincoln, 44 Steel Lincoln, 13 Liberty Head Nickel. What's next, a 1908 Linocoln Cent?
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Quote: I wonder how many of the 114 are really unique coins and not resubmits?
Great point. Especially for a key like this, I wouldn't be surprised if the true Pop was a third less than the actual number.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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would this one qualify?  
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Pillar of the Community
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I would think that ding on the middle bands would hold it back but Carl and Macmercury are the experts. Hopefully they will chime in.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
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IMO it wouldn't as the middle bands ( the ones most consider the key to FSB or NOT ) have a gash and several other areas that are not clearly split. They do not give any credit for "close" and that one isn't even close. It is like pregnant, you either are FSB or NOT. I see some dealers try to goose prices by saying it is 99% FSB - WHAT? I've never heard it as "Steel" bands, that sounds weird - like someone with no clue just guessed at what the S stood for. It is "split" as in clearly separated. The "line"/split between the two middle bands is the "key" though IMO the 3 at top and bottom also must be well struck and defined/separated to get a FSB from TPGs. I have most of a LATE SET completed in MS67FB ( PCGS doesn't bother with the S ). I will not be looking at 45 in FB, but only have the 40-S and 44 to go otherwise. I'm 15th in the current registry set rankings at PCGS. If I finish the last two off I'd be 8th. I am not a toning lover so finding them blast white in high grades gets much tougher. Almost all 68FB's I've seen have considerable toning - for example. That 1916-D MS62FB mentioned lists for $16K on PCGS. A 1945 MS62FB is much more affordable (900) by comparison. Though finding them available is tough. Congrats on having that level of coin budget! I'd have to hit the lottery! LOL
Edited by BuffalosRock 04/28/2014 1:58 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Mercury dimes have always been my favorite. I have finally completed the full set including the 1942/1's. I have learned a lot from this topic and went online to read some more, I found out that the horizontal and diagonal bands represent the leather straps that held the vertical bands together. I have been collecting Mercs for almost 50 years and never knew that!
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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Hmmm... so not FSB, but how about the FB designation?
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Bedrock of the Community
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FSB and FB are the same thing
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