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 Posted 01/17/2014  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You probably don't want to hear it, but I like the coin better now. There's just something about colorful toning that to me seems like an oily sheen on a pond that I'd prefer to be unpolluted. I fully understand that it's personal preference and I'm probably in the minority, and it doesn't excuse anything a TPG might have deliberately done without your knowledge.

But on that topic, seems like ANACS must have dealt with thousands of toned coins before. What could have been so different about this one?
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 Posted 01/27/2014  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Any updates?


I was trying to wait to have an actual update before responding but unfortunately I have no update. They never responded to my email and I've tried calling a couple times but keep getting their answering service. They dont seem to like to answer the phone towards the end of the day. Ill try again tomorrow and at that point I basically give up.


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If your packaged coins were next to a heat source enroute to ANACS, couldn't that dull the vibrant toning?


I dont think so, I sent them express mail so it was in the belly of a plane. I had sent it the same way to PCGS and had no effect on it. I guess its theoretically possible but I think its unlikely.


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You probably don't want to hear it, but I like the coin better now.


To be honest I still like the look of the coin, I just hate the coin because of what happened to it. Had I seen the coin for the first time like this I would like, I'm just bitter about what was done to it making me have a strong bias against it now


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What could have been so different about this one?


I wish I had a concrete answer for that. Could be a new policy, someone new who didnt know what they were doing, this could be more common than we hear about, something to do with their new ownership and methods the last few years who knows. All I know for sure is that it didnt go right from the flip to grading to a slab. It was exposed to something it shouldnt have been sometime between arriving and being slabbed.
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 Posted 02/03/2014  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gweidion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can certainly see differences in the coin from your original break to when you broke it out of the ANACS slab. I couldn't actually see any of these blues you talked about though. It just looked like dirty browns and near blacks to me, now it looks less so. I'm not a fan of toning. I think crud on a coin should make the coin worth less, not more. Pristine is what I like.
I'd say ANACS has made a mistake and applied their Conservation service to your coin and then realised they shouldn't have and not charged you for it. This is just my opinion though. I don't know what their conservation service does or how or what it is supposed to do. I don't like the idea of conservation, I think that is just cleaning by another name. I certainly don't ask for it on my submissions and will be EXTREMELY unhappy with ANACS if they do it to any of mine.
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I remain open to the possibility that something environmental occurred outside of ANACS. During shipment it could have been exposed to extreme cold during this timeframe (-20F), rapid temperature change, and big changes in air pressure if in the belly of a plane. I don't know anything about the physics of toning, but that colorful sheen could be only one molecule thick. What happens if a minute amount of water vapor condenses and then evaporates again? Etc. Not saying ANACS didn't do it, just speculating.
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