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Disassemble El-Nikor 75mm 1:4 Lens

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Hi new to forum and trying to get some photography equipment together. Recently purchased used lens off ebay and it has some fungus inside lens. Searched the net for disassebly instructions but it is sparse. Any way I can get this lens apart for cleaning without buying special tools or should I just return it?
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Is it the "N" version or the older version of the lens? Also, can you tell where the fungus is? There are only 4 surface you have easy access to:

1 - outer front
2 - outer rear
3 - inner (near aperture) front
4 - inner (near aperture) rear

If it looks like the fungus is in an inner surface, ie between lens elements in front or rear groups, you don't want to mess with it. If it's on an inner surface near the aperture, then it's possible to clean it. That said, fungus is tricky stuff. Sometimes it hasn't damaged the lens surface, but often the coatings will show permanent evidence of fungus damage. By the way, are you sure it's fungus? True fungus infection starts from central location (usually a piece of dust) and spreads outward in sort of random/fractal looking patterns. If it really is fungus, you may just want to send the lens back if you are within your return period.

If after all the above you still want to try cleaning the lens, I can go through a step by step, but do let me know which version you bought.

Finally, if the fungus is light, ie only in a small area, then it won't matter much to the image quality anyway and it might be good just to leave it alone. Put the lens in direct sunlight for a few hours and the fungus will be killed and won't spread any further. You are likely to do more damage to the lens attempting to remove the fungus than the fungus has done already!
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 Posted 01/04/2014  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherreePicker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it is the older version, don't see any "N" anywhere on lens. Definitely fungus and groing from periphery to the center.
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Heh. Guess I don't have to email the guy I was talking about; he's already replied here.
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Hey Dave I figured I might as well get my feet wet here. Looks like I'm going to need more help than thought. Pulling this lens apart is way beyond my pay grade :)
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Nice to have you here.

Here's how it works: I'm basically the preacher. Rmpsrpms is the serious thinking behind what we're doing, the man who introduced the whole methodology you're pursuing. He's going to be remembered as the guy who put state-of-the-art coin imaging in the hands of budget-conscious collectors. I was proselytizing before him, but it was about $500 bespoke Macro lenses and additional hardware for higher mags.
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Sorry forgot to mention that fungus appears on inner near aperture front #3 surface. Looks like it is a return item & back to the drawing board.
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Yep, if it goes from center to edge of a surface it's pretty extensive. Most likely the fungus has attacked the coating. Being on an inner surface you have a chance to fix it but it may be better to send it back if you are still able. Of course if you didn't pay much for it you could give it a go, but I'd give it less than 50/50 chance of working out well. With that extensive an infection I'd give the seller a hard time as well, especially if he advertised it as free of dust/scratches/fungus like most do..Ray
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Contacted seller and he has refunded $$; will be shipping it back to him on Monday. Seller apologized for not seeing fungal infection in lens. I'm only out a few bucks for return shipping.
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 Posted 01/04/2014  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bummer. I don't see any EL-Cheapo 75mm EL-Nikkors on ebay right now. Hopefully one will come up with a decent price soon.
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Ray was trying to contact you about your custom coin photo setups but apparently the system will not allow new members to contact anyone. Bob
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Ray, I took the liberty of providing Bob with your email. He's a VAMworld member known to me; we were originally discussing this offline before he decided to register here. For the record, Bob, Ray built the rig I use.
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Thanks Dave, we've connected...Ray
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Here's how it works: I'm basically the preacher. Rmpsrpms is the serious thinking behind what we're doing, the man who introduced the whole methodology you're pursuing. He's going to be remembered as the guy who put state-of-the-art coin imaging in the hands of budget-conscious collectors. I was proselytizing before him, but it was about $500 bespoke Macro lenses and additional hardware for higher mags.

Actually, SD and I worked together over many months defining and refining what was really needed, and useful, for coin photography, and it was all well-documented on this forum. I was a newbie with some ideas and some spare equipment, and Dave gave me feedback and guidance as I tried and tested and evaluated setup after setup, lighting method after lighting method, until we had something that really worked well for our needs. His steadfast belief in Canon made me switch from my beloved Nikon, and it was the best thing that happened to my coin photography. I was struggling to get clear photos of Cents at 0.8:1, let alone variety detail shots at 4:1. So don't listen to him above, he's just being humble...Ray
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My "steadfast belief" in Canon was just because I was an irrational fanboi.

You're the one who proved why I was right, with EFSC.
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