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Us1959-P Quarter Expert Opinions Wanted! Spiked Head Error?

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 Posted 01/05/2014  7:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jonjer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought these several years back sealed. 15 tubes. Got around to opening a tube and was surprised to find the high percentage of RV die crack and doubling errors.
Most of the errors have 3 crack areas I circled.

Then when I browsed the various sites regarding this error I drew a Blank. The closest I could find was listed as a 004 reverse (THERE ARE PICS OF THE LISTING AND COINS IN THE LINK) BELOW. I searched coneca, wexlers site and round about the web.

BTW Safe link, old face book page I never used I can never get pics good here.

https://www.facebook.com/shawn.prince.505/photos

The spike back eagle head break is where I can get no match even close for 1959.

The closest listing is attached with the pics . and I don't think this guys error listing with a pop of one is it either. There were as of writing this 3 known rv dies used for the 1959p everyone is into the #2 proof. Frankly I don't find it that rare . These errors are prevalent and these coins are all bu unc just varying degrees of toning other than that they are they appear to be from the same striking. To many of the same error to be coincidence.

So if anyone could give me advice I would appreciate it! just on the quarters...you can judge the 1882 Morgan if you want too. lol. that thing is like a mirror.

So if it is a new listing how do I go about getting it numbered? I pulled ten error RV's out of one roll all in different stages of regression.

I did not examine the obverses in any detail but threw a picture of three up of the error coins up. Seems these were all sealed and from the same run just like the seller told me. Quarter variety is TOTALLY NEW to me other than what I read in the last 48 hours.

Soo... I'm new to error stuff so any help would be appreciated! Not so new that I don't know these are cracks and not scratches. Did some Morgan VAM searching before. so I have a little background.

Also if this were to be a coin I want to get a coneca# or wexler # for what's the process? Wexler's site says send down the coin(s) and they could determine it and then number it then maybe run them through ANACS. I have a membership to PCGS and NGC so just not sure how to:
A. Make for sure this is not an already identified error.
B. How to make it a known error (remember there are several of these I have) The spike head is kind of a cool error.
C. Just the basics of what to do with these [:D

Thanks in advance for any input!. Really like the site I think I said that before. Really is my favorite on the net.

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 Posted 01/05/2014  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcuve to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your are sort of loosing me with your terminology. What is an RV error? Are talking about RDV-001 and RDV-002 - different style reverses used in that period. Yours looks like RDV-001, though the die wear and angle are making identification and little tough.

So you are concluding that your coins are the doubled die listed as 1959 1-O-II just from some die cracks on the reverse? You cannot do that. You have to start with the identification of specific doubled areas. Next determine the class of doubling and try and match it to known listings. Coin dies from the 1950s were overused and die cracks are very common.

Die cracks are only really an error if they pass a certain point and become enormous. I'm not sure what you are showing would command a higher premium because of the die cracks. A 1959 with a RDV-002 reverse does carry a small premium.

In terms of getting something listed - I need to understand exactly what it is you think you have. Pics on the forum would help and more specific terminology.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now I'm lost I did not conclude anything if I concluded it I would not have linked all the HD pics. Which is all I can do with this camera for some reason.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh ya RV I just put in as short for Reverse.
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OK this is what they look like will work on slicing an obverse down.

I don't know how they are numbered so we can go from there too like I said I do not know error coins. Wexler said I could send him a few I figured I might post here first.

Again any help would be appreciated just want to know if it is a known listed error variety.



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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Crack runs from you in pluribus to across wing to R crack on back of eagle head another crack on viewer left. they are prominent.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Coneca I guess does not list cracks. wexler has identical listing for different dates except the spike head. for the three 1959 p dies used

Was only curious if anyone ran into this before and it had a known variety # of any sort.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok her is a couple obverses probably blurred a bit. of the quarters with errors. If an expert in error quarters knows of a already listed variety for this I would greatly appreciate it. I have Wexlers PO box I only hoped someone might know. I was gonna wait a day then send them down to wexlers po box if I don's get a listing no biggie..I think I will he has much lessor errors for other years. But if not no big deal.


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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BTW Cracked them to look for the #2 proof reverse of the (3)....known reverse dies for the1959 p
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 Posted 01/06/2014  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mark near the head looks like a die scratch in that area.
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