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 Posted 01/20/2014  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jw-collectibles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We just reported 3 more sellers for copyright violation. When we gave the warning on Jan 14 it was not meant as a DARE!
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 Posted 01/20/2014  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To answer the OP's question, it could be hard if you don't have good equipment.
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 Posted 01/20/2014  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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]We just reported 3 more sellers for copyright violation


See my previous post - those are not your photos to claim copyright. In fact, by doing so, you are violating the Royal Canadian Mint's copyright, especially if you try to claim copyright on derivative works...

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 Posted 01/21/2014  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is not a copyright violation or intellectual property issue; it's just an ebay policy issue.

"Images and text policy

Policy overview

ebay members are not allowed to use images- including photos and other pictures- or text they didn't create themselves. Exceptions to this policy would be if they are authorized to do so by the owner, its agent, or the law....."

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies...ge-text.html
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 Posted 01/21/2014  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't you be violating RCM copyright policy only if you copy/paste their images from their website?

If you take a picture of the coin you bought, in your own home, I highly doubt it violated RCM copyrights.

But if someone uses the picture you created in your own home, then that violates ebay policies
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 Posted 01/21/2014  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
" ebay members are not allowed to use images- including photos and other pictures- or text they didn't create themselves. "

And if I take someone else image and edit it, the new picture is created by me right?
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By definition, editing is not creating but in this case, I suppose it would be ebay who decide since it's their policy.

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 Posted 01/21/2014  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ravenzcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So is this a copyright violation? Link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2014-AU...e9f43&_uhb=1
From what I gather from reading this and similar threads, it is. The seller has taken the Mint's own image and put his/her/its own watermark on it, and using it for a commercial purpose.
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 Posted 01/21/2014  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say so. It comes under the same understanding we have to not release any pictures before the mint says it's public. Though that picture is in the public realm, the mint is clear on how it may be used. Posting on this forum - Okay. Using it to sell for personal gain - not so much.

from the mint's legal department:
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Reproduction, transfer, distribution or storage of part or all of the Contents in any form without the prior written consent of Royal Canadian Mint is prohibited, unless otherwise specified. However, Royal Canadian Mint consents that you may download one (1) copy of the Contents on your computer for your personal, non-commercial use provided you keep intact all copyright, trademark, and other proprietary notices. You shall not modify, reformulate, adapt, alter, adjust, change, disassemble, frame or decrypt any of the Contents of this website. The use of news releases and other documents classified as public is permitted in public communications if the source of the information is stated.
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Yet the RCM doesn't seem to care much of the most important issue, counterfeiting.
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 Posted 01/21/2014  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Henry M Smith to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If an image is of a silver coin, I have seen some on ebay with the seller's reflection. This would keep others from using it.
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 Posted 01/21/2014  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is!

I love threads like this. Especially when experienced members contribute and share their learned understanding of legal matters.

As an aside, the topic pertained to an individual's photos being used by someone else, rather than images from the Mint's website. (Which is another subject.)

If we photograph a product of the RCM, we are capturing the product of an artisan's work without giving due credit, usually.

If someone else posts an image that we captured, they are using our photographic efforts for their benefit. Whether they don't have the ability to photograph their coins, or are too lazy to photograph or scan the coins for themselves, the photographer will feel that his/her efforts have been swiped. But it is going to happen.

Yes, you can use ebay rules to retaliate, but is that a good use of your time?

Perhaps, for one's own peace of mind, it might be best to look at it as a form of image creation flattery. And be happy for your photographic capabilities.
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