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1889 Denmark Ore & 1870 2 Franc Value Needed

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 Posted 01/07/2014  02:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pushthatbolder to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
are my values accurate?
come someone look at the coins and tell me if I am wrong?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261368281524

and

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261364809811



Thankyou
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 Posted 01/07/2014  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1889 ore is worth about 1/10th of your asking price and the 2 franc coin appears to be a non-silver fake.
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how is it a fake?
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Appears to be made of the wrong metal. Fakes in this dark, magnesium or tin looking metal are quite common, though they are lighter in weight than a genuine coin would be.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davidrj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2 franc is definitely an overpriced fake - see http://www.lefranc.net/monnaie,2-fr...r-e,263.html for values of a genuine coin
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Here's a lead fake 1870 2F similar to yours:

http://www.cgb.fr/faux-de-2-francs-...72000,a.html

These are pretty common and this one is so badly done it's doubtful that most people would have accepted it as money. I'd price it under $5 US. The cost of shipping is more than it's worth. It has a little value as a novelty coin, showing disrespect for one of France's most detested leaders.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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These are pretty common... Here's a lead fake 1870 2F similar to yours:
http://www.cgb.fr/faux-de-2-francs-...72000,a.html

There have been several threads in this subforum recently touching on 1800s French contemporary counterfeits (faux d'epoque...) and how prevalent they were...


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and this one is so badly done it's doubtful that most people would have accepted it as money.

And yet, many of these are of similar poor quality (and not just the Nap. III types... Ceres also). Note that there are some rather similar fakes of Barber quarters/halves in existence. Since they are clearly very badly done and really don't look like they could have fooled anyone (especially pushing well into the 1800s), I've wondered if there isn't some other explanation. Bob?
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I always thought them to be numismatic forgeries done well after the coins circulated. I had a few Standing Lib quarters made of the same material and they did not appear to have been 70+ years old.
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another source of value info for you
http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/wo...oinid=184792
I would expect this to sell for around $10 if the right person comes along who wants it.
I would also suggest offering international postage as it will greatly increase your chance of selling it
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guys, thankyou, I have lowered the prices...
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just remember be patient if you are in no hurry you will get the best price for it
I had 1 coin that I had 6 offers all for around the same amount before someone made an offer I could accept. it was a 30% difference for waiting 3 mths. worth it
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