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Valued Member
United States
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I just picked this up at my local coin club   |
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Valued Member
 United States
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I couldn't tell if this had a poor strike on the obverse or just more wear around the rim. Most coins you see with rim wear like this has more wear in the center also. What do you all think?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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VF+. Love this type, always looking for more of these  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'm terrible at grading these, but I think it is XF.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I don't know much about this series, but looking at this coin I agree there are some very strange wear patterns or a serious strike issue. Also looking at the reverse stars between 3 and 6 o-clock it is either a strike from a terminal die state or PMD. I do not know which. Hopefully someone with more 3 Cent Silver knowledge will chime in soon. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is a tough one - it is almost like a VF to XF Shield with G4 rims. I think it is a striking issue and will throw in at VF, cleaned. Looks like it might a clash on both sides (I think I see sprig below the shield). Nice coin!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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First thought was strike issue due to the odd wear pattern. Makes it tough to grade but I got to with the high points and say EF
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks EF maybe cleaned at some point. I think the weakness is strike related, maybe weak strike or worn die. If the weakness by the rim was because of wear, there should be much more wear on the arms of the star and shield than is seen.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm with D0ubl3Eagle (again it seems) right on the money with that assessment.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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XF40 maybe 45 key wear points - on the obverse look at the lines of the star into the shield. First place to wear are those parts of the shield, then you'll see wear on the star lines themselves.  On the reverse look at the diamond - it's been worn down, but the orbs and the bars (VF sign) don't looked touched.  (Edited to add images) -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/Edited by BStrauss3
01/10/2014 9:53 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Wow! You really went all out on this coin. I think your right about it being a weak strike or worn die. Thanks so much!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Type 2s are notorious for weak strikes, especially the lettering around the rim and the star outline at about 7 o'clock. That's one of the reasons they changed the design for the type 3s. FYI- When I decided I was hooked on the 3cs, I spent a lot of time at coin shows looking at coins and training my eye. I also used the PGCS app and the ANA Grading standards. (although I define my skills as ending at AU50, there are benefits to specializing - I just received a batch back from NGC and although I don't agree 100% on the cleaning they claim on a couple, I was 9-for-10 on grades and the one I missed came back F15 vs. my F12) That's where I draw the line between a collector and a numismatist - the study of the coins not just the acquisition. I was also lucky in that several dealers - once they realized I was serious - showed me examples I could never have afforded to even dream of which helps with learning the look and feel of the high end. At MS65+ on a well struck specimen, the diamond has FOUR faces - something you'll never see looking at random junk on ebay. eg http://www.pcgs.com/images/photogra...tSil-62r.jpg - see how the metal just barely begins to flow to fill in the diamond? vs. the AU50 http://www.pcgs.com/images/photogra...tSil-50r.jpg and the XF45 http://www.pcgs.com/images/photogra...Sil-45r.jpg) But I'll step off the Numismatist Soapbox now. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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I rather enjoyed your Soapbox, feel free to continue  |
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