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Rotated Dies In Large Cents

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I bought a 1832 large cent on ebay last week that I posted sellers pics of on the grading section. Coin does have some light corrosion but nice details. My question about it is that it appears to have a rotated dies error on reverse. When I researched this the image corresponded to 165 degrees CCW rotation on this coin. Would this increase rarity? Thanks Jerry
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 Posted 01/08/2014  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. Close to medal orientation. Large Cents are commonly found with rotated dies, but this one's big enough to have an effect on value.
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 Posted 01/09/2014  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep.
If you got it right the coin has some premium.
How much?
That's where "see what people will pay" comes in.
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I have 8 different years of large cents (and 20 different years of Indian cents) and can give you a good idea of the value. Since it is damaged (corroded), it should increase the value about $10. Even though supply is relatively low, demand is also low. As stated earlier, rotations larger than 90 degrees are common on large cents.

I'd be interested in seeing a link to your original picture to figure out which N it is.
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sellers pics were pretty bad especially the obverse. Here they are. http://www.ebay.com/itm/27136203771....m1439.l2649
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 Posted 01/11/2014  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have an N3, with a 'rarity' of R1, meaning there are > 1000 specimens believed to exist with the dies. I don't think you'll be happy with the surface porosity and believe their is corrosion on the reverse over the first A in AMERICA. Still, with the rotation, you didn't do too bad.
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 Posted 01/11/2014  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost any coin with a rotated reverse could be either worth more or less. So much depends on the collector. Some people actually will not buy a coin with a rotated reverse regardless of the amount of rotation. Some people collect coins with rotated reverses. So your could be worth more or less depending on you finding the right buyer.
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I agree with justcarl. Rotated dies are common on the Matron Heads especially.
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