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 Posted 01/11/2014  12:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CWS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

So I haven't made the plunge yet to buy a world coin book. Problem is they seem to stop at 1900. So i'd really need to buy 2 volumes and that's a bit pricey.

I tried searching here for a link to any online sites. Currently I'm finding the base metal value for most of our silver world coins. But we would like to know the going numismatic rates.

Any help would be awesome. Right now we're thinking about simply going to the library and photographing all the pages for coins we have then uploading them to our website. So that we have them. But that'll take time and work and we're lazy for that sort of work.

Thanks,
~CWS
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 Posted 01/11/2014  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Krause world coin catalogs are nice to have. Here's an experiment: go to the library and get several of them then look up the same coin in each... you think you are lazy. They recalculate for precious metals but some items are not really worked on.

They are a great reference but sometimes they don't worry about updating for years. I got the editions for 1974, 2002 and 2012, just the 20th century versions but those 3 set me back less then $50 at Amazon. Get an older one for reference then look up the prices on line.
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 Posted 01/11/2014  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
have you looked on ebay for the Krause sets? The ones on CD are fairly reasonable compared to the paper versions. You can also look on abebooks for the paper versions of the catalogs. I bought all of the volumes (17th, 18th, 19th, 20th and 21st centuries) for less than $15 each there.
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 Posted 01/11/2014  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC has a free online coin catalog with Krause prices. It has a terrible interface, which is probably why people pay for the real paper catalogs:
http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/Wo...e-Guide.aspx

Numista also runs a collaborative online catalog, with no prices but a much easier interface:
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pays.php
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I have also purchased older editions of the Standard Catalog of World Coins on Amazon and ebay for a very discounted price. If you look around long enough, you can find them under $10 with shipping for older editions and look up current prices online.
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 Posted 01/11/2014  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any world coin catalog, of the sort you are asking about, is not really going to help you much on coin values. Simply put the field is just way too large and any catalog you buy wisuch a catalog will be out of date( assuming you buy it as soon as it is published). All that said reading the other replies...go for second hand copies of Krause.
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Right now we're thinking about simply going to the library and photographing all the pages for coins we have then uploading them to our website. So that we have them.

Whatever you do, don't do that. Copyright infringement. If Krause Publications finds out that you're putting their info on your website without their permission, their lawyers will throw the book at you.
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Yes, buy the book USED at an online retailer. I like the 39th Edition (2012) because it doesn't have all the problems that the 40th edition has (lots of errors). As far as prices it is just a guide. If you're really interested in what something's currently selling for, check the "sold" prices at ebay (do an "Advanced Search" for the coin, and click on the 'Sold' checkbox). Take the information from both to establish a price.

What I've noticed by just deeply delving into ONE nation's coins (South Korea), is that Krause Publications' Standard Catalog of World Coins (SCWC) has MANY errors, just in this one country. The subject line for coins will be off, or the prices are WAY, WAY off (ie, a .30 cent price for a 1999 5 Won coin. This coin only appears in Mint Sets, of which there are only 8,000 in existence. The mint set sells for a minimum of $400.00 USD. So what is the price of that 1999 5 Won coin? Well, it is most certainly more than .30 cents! I have seen them sold at online Korean retailers (raw) for over $200.00 USD.

But.... The SCWC is about the only compendium of prices for world coins that I know about. And unfortunately, (from my experience, only) they do NOT respond to requests for information or letters to the editor to make content-change suggestions. I've tried.
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 Posted 01/18/2014  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CWS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi All,

We haven't considered looking into buying older versions of any reference books. Thanks for the suggestion about Krause books.

Is it really against the law to post estimated prices of coins online, using the info from reference books? I mean how is it different from taking the average sale value from online auction sites and then posting a list of those.

Now off to Amazon, ebay, and half.com to look for cheap world coin price books.

Thanks all!
~CWS
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 Posted 01/20/2014  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keepcalmandcoinon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think what they thought you said is you were going to publish the actual pictures of the price guides on your website. Don't do that,that is infringement. Posting the prices you look up is not. That is what they are there for. I suggest taking a list of your coins to the library and just writing down the prices if you want to go that route. What I do to determine the FMV of a foreign coin is use several different references to get an average price. Ngc world coin, heritage, and finished ebay auctions. Of course you have to factor in the grade of the coin. Good luck on your search.
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Thanks KCACO,

Using all of those to get a final value will be really time consuming. We've been lucky enough to find the prices on ebay's sold listings.

We still haven't bought any of the reference guides yet.

- CWS
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