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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I got this on ebay, and I wonder if it has been whizzed or this is actual doubling(mechanical or not). Here is the description from the auction, 1853 O with Arrows, I'm Not a coin expert, but I have a copy of Whitmans Photograde Book. The dealer had it marked VF But The Liberty on shield is not sharp, the E is barely visible, The bottom of the R and T is light, There is more than 50% of the Eagles Feathers.So ( F-12 )Would be the books grade. I'm selling this for someone else so look at photos closely. Shipping and Insurance $2.90 US The selling for someone else bit, as well as the 1853 in there made me hesitate, but his detail about the shield sort of balanced it. The seller has 100% feedback and 1 neutral(for excessive shipping)out of 332, mostly car parts. The "doubling" effect is not visible without mag, except on the 8. The coin weighs 190 grains, so I am inclined to think it has not een altered and I wanted more knowledgable opinions. I also think that the small die crack in the last image would have been erased if it was poished or buffed. The last pic is also through an airtight I put the coin in after I removed the flip to weigh it.       |
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Forum Mom
 United States
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This coin has not been whizzed. You can't miss the hairlines from whizzing. They would not be one or two here and there, there would be a lot of them and the coin would be very shiny. I believe that the areas you have pictured are doubled. I don't have a book for this series to give you any more information than that. The last picture shows a filled die, I believe. Very nice coin!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1173 Posts |
I feel, from the amount of wear, but lack of "dirt" in many of the crevices, etc., that the coin has been cleaned sometime after it was removed from general circulation.
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Member
United States
3242 Posts |
It look like its been steamed & dipped to me. with the browning around the wings on rev plus it to clean for the wear it has.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3233 Posts |
Definitely cleaned. No uncleaned 19th century coin will look white with no dirt if it has more than AU wear on it. I realize this might seem like a challenge statement to some.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In regards to the comments on the cleaning of this coin, how has it affected this coin's value? And knowing this coin has been cleaned how much would you pay to own it?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2443 Posts |
It's looks like it has been cleaned a really long time ago. About affecting the price, it's not a harsh cleaning or a really bad one so it might not affect it too much. Some people are able to get cleaned coins slabbed by PCGS and others who don't accepted cleaned coins. The reason is because they were cleaned a long time ago and the evidence of the cleaning is mostly gone.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If the coin does not appear harshly cleaned, I usually value it one half to one full grade less than its technical grade. Harsher cleanings lower the value two or more grades depending on the overall eye appeal and other factors (such as demand, rarity, value, etc.).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1173 Posts |
I think Prethen's way of valuing cleaned coins is pretty accurate, though be assured that there are many purists in the Coin World who won't have any cleaned coin in their collection. So...it is always more difficult to sell a cleaned coin than an uncleaned coin. I would add to Prethen's remarks that gentle cleaning, done a long time ago, of a 19th century coin has less effect on its value than cleaning of a modern coin in most circumstances. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2540 Posts |
mechanical doubling, scrubbed.
stay away.
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Posted 07/05/2007 10:23 am
