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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I sent back the other one I had posted. It was an old cleaning and in-hand the brightness of the devices, especially on the reverse did not please me. Although it was a market acceptable and very old cleaning that toned back over nicely, for a scarce date like 1847 in the series I really wanted to stay in a range that was both a smart long term investment coupled with a true problem free coin. So now I present you experts of the Numismatic faith with this grading challenge Thanks for looking Enjoy  
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Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Canada
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I'll say XF-40 too. It has re-toned very nice.
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Australia
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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XF45 or maybe AU50 if there's good luster. Excellent eye appeal either way.
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United States
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Completely unnatural color for a mid range circ. 19th century silver type coin. This color and pattern would only occur on a circ. coin that had been dipped and then stored in a storage device that is known to impart toning quickly on a dipped silver coin. I'd pass on this one too.  PCGS has had a habit of letting minor faults like the secondary toning on this one to pass. They seem to have a tolerance through an undeclared measure of market acceptability on key/rare dates. No way would this ever get accepted by CAC. I would have done the opposite. I would have kept this one, and let nature take its course by slipping it into an old manila Kraft coin envelope and giving it a chance to let the devices that you claim were too bright to darken. I sense that this coin is actually colored more like a steel grey than the coffee color that shows in your image, which I consider a much more natural color for the circumstance. 
Edited by judd1552 01/15/2014 11:48 pm
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United States
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I'll guess it graded AU-50.
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Judd, I appreciate your assessment and the time you took to share your knowledge, insight and offer your opinion. I fell in love with that first coin at first picture sight but quickly realized that it did not match the theme of what I am trying to accomplish which is a full PCGS registry set. My fear was that the first coin would not make it into a problem free holder. Quote: No way would this ever get accepted by CAC Perhaps the diffused lighting and photo techniques have fooled everyone. In-hand, this coin has a blast white and full lustrous appearance. I may have to take true to life pics with the old Iphone to show this. Both PCGS and CAC (heck even myself) had the advantage of this coin in-hand so the toning, luster and true beauty of this coin were present and accounted for. I'll confess that I have no idea where the previous owners had this coin stored over time and what caused the color to set in the manner which it did but in the end, I am very happy with this coin and feel I have made a proper long term investment for when the day resale comes to pass. thanks to all for your opinions 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I am a sucker for colorfully toned coins. Natural or not, if their is sufficient luster underneath, that is what matters most to me....and from your description of the luster, I have no problem with the grade and CAC. I admit though too, that the initial photos can lead one to think the color is unnatural.
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United States
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My first thoughts were AU 55, then saw the first few responses and figured I was way off.
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United States
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Ah, the perils of judging coins from internet based images...  At most, I'm confounded about the CAC approval. I probably would have a much more positive view if examined in hand. Enjoy! This one is in my crosshairs. ex:Benson. PCGS AU-55. Needs a new holder to eliminate the scuff over Liberty's head fore and aft. 
Edited by judd1552 01/16/2014 5:53 pm
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 United States
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I know that ex. Benson very well and it was right on my radar. That's an investment coin and I came close to,purchase earlier this week until I found the AU53 with the CAC. It was not as high in price as that Benson and the CAC was the deal sealer at the grade and price due to resale hopes in a decade
This coin in PCGS AU53 or 55 do not come up that often so the charts should stay steadily moving up on toners like these with CAC designations
Let me know if you nab that one, I would love to see it in hand cam shots. I heard it's VERY lustrous. It should only go up in value very well in 10 years
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