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Hello to all. First a little background: I have collected U.S. Coins for years but have recently become interested in British Coins. I have a 1800 2 Pence, a 1757 6 Pence, a 1824 Shilling, a 1902 1/2 Crown and this 1844 Crown. My concern with the Crown is the condition, I am not sure how to grade it and therefore how much to value it. What grade would you assign it? Thank you in advance,   Edited by raybutler
01/15/2014 9:42 pm
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I'll go F-15
Feel free to call me Will.
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I would say the obverse is an Fine+ and the reverse and Fine-. That would translate to about a F12 in US grading.
Numismaster has this one at $100 for Fine condition, so probably a shade under that.
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theDollarman - I have looked it up on the NGC price guide and it lists for $375 in VF-20, it gives no price in the Fine category. How much would you value it? HarryWells - I have seen them go for more than $100 on ebay in lower grades than this one, are you sure that Numismaster lists the 1844 crown that low? It has the lowest mintage of the type.
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01/15/2014 10:31 pm
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I have looked it up on the NGC price guide and it lists for $375 in VF-20, it gives no price in the Fine category. How much would you value it? The NGC World Coin Price Guide uses information from Krause Publications' NumisMaster. I believe it states this on the top of the webpage. Unfortunately NGC kept the same headers for their World Coin Price Guide that they use for their US Price Guide, which is very confusing. The VF you are seeing is not VF20, but VF in the British grading system which would be equivalent to roughly and EF40 or more on the Sheldon scale. So this coin is a Fine in the British system and roughly an F12 in the US system. That does book at $100 on NumisMaster. There is a very steep price difference between F and VF in the British grading system, much more so than you see between US grades. |
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HarryWells - Thank you for clearing that up, I am new to these coins and hadn't taken into account differences in grading systems. I paid $100 for it, thinking it was worth much more (looks like I got taken). I'll do more research before any more purchases.
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Ray, I would not say you gotten taken, but you did pay full book.
I bought an 1899 Crown at a coin show on Saturday and spent half an hour explaining to the dealer and showing him on both of the afore mentioned websites why he was overcharging for the coin. I got it for $50 in VF-/F+ which is also probably full book.
I see this on E-Bay and even at coin shows, where the seller lists the grade in US and then looks up the price in the guide which is stated in the British system.
Believe me when I first started collecting British coins I got pounded on the prices. Live and learn.
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This coin is currently offered on an auction venue by a seller in Great Britain, and it is listed in the European system as "About F/gF". I won't mention the value expected, as it appears to be possibly a scarce variety that may not be a close comp for market value. I would be more inclined to grade the OP's coin a VG, based on lesser definition in the overall hair detail of Victoria as compared to the one I've posted.   Edited by judd1552
01/15/2014 11:33 pm
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Rather than worry about a specific letter and/or number to assign to a piece... and/or use a book as gospel value for said letter/number... keep it simple. Search 1844 crown in ebay completed listings, peruse the dozens of finished listings and see what you see. That is BY FAR the best pricing data you will get, especially for a date/type which trades frequently like the 1844/45 crowns do... |
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