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well it doesn't look cleaned to me for I'll say au-50/55
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I really don't understand,how you can see,this one was cleaned? Have you seen the video? The coin has a little frost toning,but I don't see anything,what shows,it was cleaned   |
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MS 64 Morgans are not common. They were heavily used as currency and the excess in vaults were melted down as part of the Pittman Act. When one sees an ungraded Morgan in great shape, it is either a part of a hoard that was put away, part of a collection that was sold to a coin shop, already holdered by a TPG or a well used coin that has been cleaned. So one naturally suspects. Add to that, Morgans were minted with nice lusterous fields, even 120 year old Morgans in MS condition, maintain this lustre. It may just be the pictures, but when a coin is in great shape but has a dull finish to it, one needs to suspect that at some point it was dipped to clean it up. |
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to denco7 I know,there are some dates of Morgan dollars,they are not very common in a high grade,but this year is not expensive in MS64,only 84$ or so,if it's not common,it would be has a price as a Morgan 1879 in the same grade for example.I think so) This one is white too http://www.ebay.com/itm/1883-O-Morg...em2ecdf0e6d5 ,I saw a lot of coins over 100 years old in a high grade and without toning. And there is a big difference between cleaning and conservation.Conservation makes a lot of coins white by grading companies or dealers,but it doesn't make coins worse) |
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@Lex1705, I think the general consensus here is the coin has the appearance of an "over dipped" coin. This is based on the dull surface appearance in the fields of your coin. If, by chance, this is just a product of the photos your coin is probably a righteous MS63/64. It's impossible for me to say for sure from your photos.
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This one spent a bit too much time in an acid dip. Much of the cartwheel luster has been stripped off. For that reason, not circulation, I believe it would grade no higher than AU-55
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The surface is not very smooth,like my others Morgans,but it's a technological feature of stamping,a press stamps a little bit more strongly or weakly.
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We have some really tough graders on the forums these days. I dunno, maybe I am just too liberal with my grading. It looks MS-64 to me also, the only oddity is that the reverse breast is really weak. It looked like wear in your first photos, but on the second set of photos, I can tell the breast is quite lustrous....so it is probably a strike issue. I don't know why some consider this grade "uncommon", MS-64 Morgan is run of the mill, and I wouldn't justify slabbing it unless I thought it had a shot at 65.
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01/25/2014 12:52 pm
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I see wear most pronounced over the ear. AU. Only my opinion.
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