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What Could This Be? 1951 Roosevelt With Raised Hatch Marks..

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 Posted 01/25/2014  11:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nogero to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Everyone,
New to this site. My wife purchased this 1951 Roosevelt dime for my birthday at an antique store. At first I thought she got duped but looking through my eye piece the cross hatch marks on the face are actually raised.
Could this have been struck after a die was defaced?
Never seen this before. Hope to shed some light on it..
Thanks to all in advance!

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01/26/2014 12:27 am
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 Posted 01/26/2014  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears it was done with a sharp knife at an angle, which pushed up the metal.
Its value is the silver content--about $1.44. If she paid more, I'd return it.

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 Posted 01/26/2014  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nogero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see it now. I just did an experiment with a 1952 and a box knife. The results are similar. I can see how over time the sharp edges would wear down to create this welded bead look. Thanks for the reply.
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 Posted 01/26/2014  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Considering the amount of ware on the rest of the coin and the relative crispness of the lines I'm leaning towards PMD scratches. But I'd like to tell you about a bit of my family history. An Uncle of mine bought a brand new car in the early 50's, there was a weird rattle behind the back seat near the wheel well, so he took it in several times and they could find nothing wrong. Finally he got sick of it and made them take the whole thing apart, I think they even had to use a cutting torch to cut into a welded panel. What did they find... well an empty coke bottle of course, put there by some bored assembly worker just for the heck of it.

Like I said I can believe it's scratches to the coin but people get bored and do weird things sometimes. I'd suggest taking more pictures, put a light at a very low angle to cast shadows, leave the light and camera in the same position and rotate the coin to show different angles of shadow... ok so I just refreshed (I need to stop taking hours to compose and read and reread) ... YOU USED A BOX CUTTER ON A 52!?!?... I hope it was an ugly one to start with.

if it was advertised as a mint error or the cost was over $1.50- $2.00 I'd take it back. If the price was fair I'd hold onto it, it is an interesting piece
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 Posted 01/26/2014  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can see where they put the horizontal cuts on the coin first, then the vertical ones. Damaged coin.
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@ ASLAN TVorlon,
I like the story. It's those things that make life so interesting. I was hoping it was something like that. I think if it was a mint error the lines would only be raised but the deep grooves suggest it was cut. The '52 looked exactly the same under my eye piece. Too bad.
1952...I know, it was a sacrifice that had to be made. It was out of my junk silver pile so no loss there.
Who knows, maybe that coin will create it's own story some day.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to comment, enjoying this community already!!
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 Posted 01/27/2014  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Somebody was really bored.
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 Posted 01/28/2014  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably waiting for their food in a "Howard Johnson's" Restaurant. LOL
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