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What Were Canadian Cents Made Of In 1981 & 1999

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I have been keeping every Canadian one cent coin I receieve in change ever since the Royal Canadian Mint stopped producing them. I was just wondering, I know that I read that, up to 1996 Canada made their pennies out of copper, unlike the U.S., where the solid copper cents were stopped in 1982, but I have a 1981 and a 1999 Canadian penny that both feel like different weights than most of my other Canadian cents I have put away that are in between those dates or older than 1981, which is why I was wondering about the 1981 cent. Weren't Canadian pennies copper plated zinc for a while after 1996? and when did Canada start making their pennies out of solid copper?
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1981 is 2.8 grams of .98 copper
1999 is copper plated zinc
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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The one cent coin.......

Large pennies

Victoria 1876 - 1901 Composition: .95 copper, .04 tin, .01 zinc.
Edward VII 1902 - 1910 Composition: .95 copper, .04 tin, .01 zinc.
George V 1911 - 1920 Composition: 1911 to 1919, .95 copper, .04 tin, .01 zinc.
Composition: 1919 to 1920, .955 copper, .030 tin, .015 zinc.


Small pennies

George V 1920 - 1936 Composition: .955 copper, .030 tin, .015 zinc.
George VI 1937 - 1952 Composition: 1937 to 1942, .955 copper, .030 tin, .015 zinc.
1942 to 1952, .980 copper, .005 tin, .015 zinc.
Elizabeth II 1953 - Date Composition: 1953 to 1996, .980 copper, .005 tin, .015 zinc.
1997 to 2003, copper plated zinc.
1999 to 2003, .940 steel, .045 copper, .015 nickel
2003 to 2012, Multi-ply plated steel.



If you are still wondering about the weight try a jewellery store or a coin shop, a better bet than a shady type in a coffee shop at 3 AM, they all have scales but try the store first
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ASLAN_TVorlon, sounds like you're quoting Charlton's or Krause. Other sources, including the mint, differ on the composition of the large cents.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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"Crusty Metal Detecting" actually, I just use it for a reference of cut off dates
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1997 to 2003, copper plated zinc.
1999 to 2003, .940 steel, .045 copper, .015 nickel


So, are you saying that in 1999-2003 they made BOTH copper plated zinc, AND copper plated steel (or something like that) simultaneously? Because I have a 1999 Canadian cent that does NOT stick to a magnet.
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Yep they tried zinc for a while along with the steel ones too.
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Actually, all the way up to 2012 they were making some in steel and some in zinc.
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because it was costing too much money to mint them with that much copper in them
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because it was costing too much money to mint them with that much copper in them


Yes - it was costing the Mint a mint (bad pun from the Punman)
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Fox, look to see if your 1999 cent has a small P on the obverse below the queen. If it has that then it is a steel-cored plated test coin. If there isn't a P it's a regular zinc cent. The 1999P are rare and consequently fetch a nice premium.
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By the way, I believe 1981 (and 1980) had a slightly reduced weight when compared with pre-1979 small cents. This may explain your curiosity on the weight.

Most years 2002 to 2012 had both zinc and steel cores used in circulation production. The coinsandcanada site has a good list of varieties. This makes it a fun series IMHO, despite some people feeling it's just modern junk.
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