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Seated Liberty And Morgan Dollars Real?

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 Posted 02/02/2014  03:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add flippy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I saw these coins in an online auction and I was wondering if they were real.
Sorry these were the pictures from the auction house.

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 Posted 02/02/2014  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure I understand.

Are these suppose to be 3 coins on the first pic and then their reverses on the second?


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 Posted 02/02/2014  04:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flippy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, there are 6 coins, only one side was shown. They were meant to be in the same picture but to resize the image and to keep it at a reasonable size I had to cut the picture in half.
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It's impossible to tell from that picture. It could be the bargain of the year, or it could be a total scam. The 1850 Seated dollar is a desirable coin whichever mint it came from. It would be helpful to know the weight of each coin.
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I would contact them and ask for pics of the reverse.
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 Posted 02/02/2014  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My default opinion would be "probably not real," simply because of the size of the images. Not remotely large enough to draw intelligent conclusions, and I'm too risk-averse to throw that kind of money at a chance. Especially when this is the type of auction which will draw the ones who will throw that money; you can assume it'll likely hammer above the true value of the coins.
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I would be weary....
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Is there a money back guarantee? If it's an "all sales are final" auction I would run away. The image quality is sub par to draw a conclusion on authenticity.
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Those Morgans look very similar to the Chinese "copies" I have in my possession. They appear to have the same kind of artificial wear, meaning that they all have the same degree of wear. Here's a closer look:

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I hope these images can help. I think the coins you posted are of the same origin.
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 Posted 02/03/2014  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flippy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all of your help, here are some better images, The auction is in about 1-2 hours. Do these pictures help to confirm thay are fake or real?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/111897...40454280224/
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The 1850 dollar looks like a definite fake, so I'd keep away this auction, as probably most of them are fakes.
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Thanks for confirming, I was told the absentee bid is 100 pounds
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The 1850 Seated dollar worries me. 7500 mintage, $1500-2000 coin. The 5 doesn't look like a real one: http://www.dickosburn.com/1850-libe...ar-xf40.html

Ask yourself, who would throw a rare coin like this into a mixed lot of bullion-grade coins? Would you trust this seller to authenticate, or to give you a refund when the coins turn out to be underweight Chinese fakes?
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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