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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Hello: I have recently found myself in this fascinating area of research. I believe I have successfully navigated the Haxby site and have identified several coins. Now the questions are: (1) How do I know how to price a variety after generally grading the coin? (2) Is there a place to find the rarity of each combination of obverse and reverses? So far, I've found: PC59-831 (VF-EF) with double punch "5" PC59-65a1(VF-EF) PC59-762 (F-VF, slight warp) PC59-731 (VF) Thanks, Steve  Edited by steve123 02/05/2014 11:20 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
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I would follow DBM advise
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Valued Member
Canada
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> Dont know where the large cent experts are but in the mean time if you scroll to the bottom of this page there may be a great book for your unanswered
Hi Pennyman,
I think a lot of the large cent experts have given up on this site as they find themselves often challenged by exceptionally vocal respondents who have their own theories and don't really listen to what they're being told.
To the second part of your statement, if you scroll down you MAY find a useful book, or you may find a very expensive and inconveniently packaged supply of toilet paper.
Cheers
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Valued Member
United States
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To Steve123, To answer your first question regarding how to price one of these varieties? Strictly speaking a Haxby catalog number in most cases does not represent what most would call a variety. It is a specific pie pair. Natuarally all die pairs are different and in a sense are a variety, but most consider a variety something more collectable for various reasons which are hard to define. For example there are many repunched 9's on the 1859s, but only a few are named as "varieties" the rest are just another die pair.
As to your second question regarding rarity Dr Haxby has a pretty good idea of rarity, but at this point has choosen not to publish that information. He enjoys collecting and clasifying and hopes others will also. Rarity starts to move into making money with coins which he and others are not as enthused about. Most 1859 die pairs are fairly "vanilla" coins not too expensive to buy and rather fun to ID. ed
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Pennyman007, one of Canada's best large cent experts can no longer reply to your questions here. The reason for such, is in part, buried within the second part of your statement.
My advice is that when it comes to discussing the finer points of Canadian large cents with experts, DBM's link is the best one you will find.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: very expensive and inconveniently packaged supply of toilet paper I thought Charmin was the expensive one..lol
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm sure it would be softer
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Pillar of the Community
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SPP I agree DBMs link is the best one. I seen this thread slipping away with no replies for a day or so..the suggestion of the book was only a suggestion. Mind you it seems to have got the thread moving and ruffled some feathers that I was not aware of. I would love to hear what the experts have to say. Sorry if I ruffled some feathers.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you to everyone for the replies. I wasn't aware of any history with this site and the 1859 community. I find all of the different dies pairs fascinating and using the vickycoins.com site allowed me to identify some very difficult ones. One listed pictures of all seven die cracks and my coin had every one of them. It's always nice to solidly identify something like that. I went on Canadiancoppercoins last night before coming here, signed up and waited for my verification e-mail that never arrived. Thanks to all for the help. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Also...as per making money... I buy and sell. I mostly buy to make money from coins so that I can buy more and more other coins. I love to find errors and varieties especially. Finding them to me, is the fun. So, I list them for sale and move on. So, yes, I would like to make money from these coins, so that I can buy more of them. Where do the experts get their coins? I'm sure that they also must purchase as well. Some may be donated or loaned to help in research maybe? So, in the end, someone is making money, right?  I don't see what the dilemma is?  I hope I just didn't put myself behind the  ! LOL Any way you look at it, we are all having fun with our coins in one way or the other. 
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Valued Member
United States
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Steve123 your points are well taken. You don't sound like someone who is out to make a killing just honest buying and selling which we all do. But even a causual glance at ebay and the many ads screaming "rare this and rare that" shows that some take it to an extreme, I believe that is what Dr Haxby is hoping to discourage. I also enjoy finding the hard to find ones, it kinda makes my day when I do. Right now I am 13 coins short of having all the currently known Haxby die pairs and it's a tough but enjoyable search. None of the ones I am missing are especially collectable just what some might call "vanilla" coins but at least to me "rare". ed
Edited by nybird 02/06/2014 6:16 pm
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