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The year 1809, first of the capped bust dime series, is a sought after and fairly scarce type. Only one variety exists for this year. As a date, I personally believe it is second only to the 1822. I am always on the lookout for nice or scarce CBD's, and came across this one. After careful examination, I must say I have some reservations. I have focused on the date, and I believe I see some differences when compared to genuine examples. I would much appreciate hearing your opinions about this coin - it otherwise has the look, tone and 'fabric' of a genuine example, but look closely. The top image in red background is the coin in question. The other two , for comparison, are courtesy of Heritage. With regards,    |
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G - - I've looked closely and see nothing to be alarmed about. What are you seeing that causes you to question authenticity?
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Jeffrose, specifically I see 3 things in the date that seem to be different from all other 18091'6 I have compared to:
- The tail of the 9 is too short and thick.
- The top bar of the 1 is low relative to the 8.
- The loops/circles in both the 8 and the 9 appear too small (and this does not appear to be due to them being full of crud)
- In general the numerals all apear to be thicker than on the other examples.
These may be small differences (and my eyes may not be the best!), but
I think they are there.
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I can't see any indication of the coin not being genuine. I'm better with bust quarters and halves though. The tiny inconsistencies all seem within the range of normal variability even within the same die marriage variety.
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The tiny inconsistencies all seem within the range of normal variability even within the same die marriage variety. And also the differences in wear. Here are all 3 dates equally sized for comparison. Still looks OK to me.  |
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There are definitely three differences there. I don't know enough about CBDs to tell you whether or not this makes a difference.
Especially the 9, and the 0. Doesn't seem to fit the same thickness. However that is the only thing, the 9 seems to be pointed in the right direction, and the date is the same distance from the denticles as the others.
In my opinion, the differences aren't enough to deal a fake. But then again I really don't know enough about these.
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Germany
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Jeffrose, thank you very much. That is a nice collage and one can really compare side by side.
Rachums107, thank you also much for your comments.
I am definitely not knowledgeable enough to tell if the minor differences
I see in the size and shape of the numerals are to be accounted for even if just one set of dies was used. However, your collage highlights even more markedly differences in the shape of the '9'. Almost as though a different die was used - and that would not be possible.
I guess one can take this no further, but it is an interesting case.
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Wear, environmental exposure. G grade versus VF and EF...lots of reasons the date looks as it does plus who knows what state of life the dies were in
Looks authentic compared to the other two
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