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Please Grade - 1921 - D Really Nice Luster

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This one I am probably going to send in.
The scan does not do this coin justice - is is absolutely shiny in the light. It is incredibly brilliant.
I would say it is prooflike, according to the test here:
http://coins.about.com/od/uscoins/f..._morgans.htm

High resolution:
http://i.imgur.com/Shcsfp1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f39rkik.jpg

Thanks!


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 Posted 02/14/2014  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is this cleaned or polished? Also is it damaged? Why send something like that in unless I'm missing something....
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The scan does not do this coin justice - is is absolutely shiny in the light. It is incredibly brilliant.


This coin has circulated, enough to show direct rub on the cheek and neck. For a coin at this level of wear to demonstrate Prooflike qualities, it almost certainly has been polished. Does any of the effect you're seeing whatsoever happen on the devices, or only in the fields?
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It happens about equally on the fields and devices.
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It happens about equally on the fields and devices.


"Prooflike" and all its' versions are on the fields only of a coin. Devices do not acquire the effect unless the coin has been heavily polished. PL surfaces are the result of original polishing of the dies, which can't reach into the devices.

Hate to be the bearer of bad tidings.
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its a lot of surface blemishes
i do not believe you have a $1,500 to $2500 version of the coin and would ultimately spend near the money in TPG fees and shipping than the coin will fetch for resale one day



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Thanks a lot. What are some good reasons for getting a coin graded by a third party? I always thought grading was a "must" that brought the true value to the coin and also assisted in appraisal.
I have a similar coin here, but this one does not glisten as much. Ideas on grading these? I want to train myself to be able to take a look at a coin and estimate a range that the professionals would do so as to estimate value and price I should pay.I am fairly new to the hobby, but I think I have a lot of the basics down. So far I have been paying near close to spot for most of my coins as I am interested in the investment value.

So, High Resolution:
http://i.imgur.com/GV9Pzc2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PyJ9IQ6.jpg


Thanks

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What are some good reasons for getting a coin graded by a third party?


1) Because you want professional confirmation of its' authenticity.

2) Because it's going to be sold and is of sufficient value that a prospective buyer would expect it in a slab.

That's the whole list of reasons, at least in my opinion.

Numismatics is a knowledge-based hobby, plain and simple. Your path to being able to reliably accomplish these things for yourself can only be the result of seeing, handling and/or looking at thousands of coins. In this day and age, where you can post images online in front of a concentrated audience of experienced people, your learning curve can be pretty steep by comparison to a couple of decades ago.

One of the first steps I recommend for a newer collector - especially one like yourself, who seems interested in Morgans - is to register with Heritage Auctions. It's free, and gives you access to their huge database of previous auctions (1.7 million coins), most of which have extremely high-resolution images. It's a whale of a reference source. Just be careful with your wallet, once you see some of the stuff they're offering at auction.

Oops. Forgot the 1896. It is the best-looking of the coins you've presented so far, but the reddish hues on the reverse convince me that it's circulated slightly or been exposed to some outside agent in storage. I can't really render any confident opinion about the surfaces, though, because these are scans. Scans present detail nicely but obscure surface appearance.
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AU-55 details coin, not worth slabbing.
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Oooh thanks for that tip on Heritage Auctions SsuperDdave. I'll do that straight away. I'd better not find anything I like. The postage and insurance to Australia is murder.

As for your 21D andrewrp, I'd be very worried if it was that shiny, like others have said, a coin that age doesn't stay that shiny unless it has been extremely protected from the elements and silver just sucks oxidization straight out of the air.
I don't think your 1896 is brilliant uncirculated either I'm sorry to say. Looks like a bit of compression in LL's hair from what I can see. If it was an O mint I might think it was a slightly weaker strike but not for a P.
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