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My luck has been feeling like its been needing a boost. Sending it to the community for evaluation. Thanks   |
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no picture so you luck is not good
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Sorry... here's color photo. The blue negative and this coin are the same.  |
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Even at this size, your coin is missing the rim Cud (arrow below)--all examples I've seen have it. On most, the 8/7 is obvious too.  |
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In 1888 when they were in need of a die and they grabbed the 87, I would think there would have to be some kind of quality control before they would use the die. They wouldn't use a die that already has a break in the denticles would they? If on the average there's two hundred thousand strikes for a die, how many miles were already on the 87 to begin with? Is it possible to have the same date to bust and denticles orientation as the 88/7 without being the actual overdate? I've noticed on certified 88 over 7's that the Cud at 9 o'clock changes. Just asking and living the dream... |
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They wouldn't use a die that already has a break in the denticles would they? In Snow's attribution guide, he lists a "die stage A" without a rim Cud, but he's also told me there are no confirmed 1888/7 without the Cud.  I've also seen a progression in the Cuds, so one might reasonably expect a coin without the Cud. I'm guessing the Cud happened very early during striking. There is another marker that's not listed in the Snow guide which I've seen on nearly all pictures of this overdate: the 8th feather is weakly struck, almost blending into the field.  Edited by DVCollector
02/17/2014 4:05 pm
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Thanks for joining the discussion DVCollector. I would love just to put this 88 over 7 to bed. Just because there isn't an early die state known doesn't mean it doesn't exist. My question is how many 88 dies are there in total, obverse and reverse? Where do I find that information? It seems when you talk about the infamous early die state of 88 over 7 you might as well be talking about unicorns.
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Can you post a close up of the date ?
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I would love just to put this 88 over 7 to bed. Just because there isn't an early die state known doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Are you suggesting this coin is the Snow-1 1888/7, just an early die state? What I tried to convey above, is that I don't see any markers for the overdate. I only posted larger pictures to help you clarify things on your end. But if you post larger pictures of your coin here, we'll be have more to discuss. Quote:
My question is how many 88 dies are there in total, obverse and reverse? Where do I find that information? In Snow's attribution guide, he has estimated 182 obverse dies for 1888. However, one shouldn't divide total mintage (37.5 Million) against 182 obverse dies to arrive at ~205,000 total mintage for the 1888/7 Snow-1. PCGS has put the surviving population of the Snow-1 at 500-600, which I still think is high--fewer than 100 examples are recorded. I'm not writing this to deflate your interest in this variety--it would be the find of a lifetime and we'd all congratulate you! It's far better to first be skeptical, then convinced beyond any reasonable doubt. Post larger pictures and you'll get more comments.  Edited by DVCollector
02/17/2014 5:02 pm
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That is what I'm talking about. A real discussion on this crazy variety. Pics coming shortly. Thanks for helping me hash it out.
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Edited by llmyr71
02/17/2014 9:12 pm
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Close up of date!  |
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Thanks for the large pic of the date. At least for me to comment, I need to see the date, denticles and the bust area...together This is the method used for attributing a repunched date (or overdate) in the Snow guides--seeing the larger picture.  Edited by DVCollector
02/17/2014 9:40 pm
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Edited by llmyr71
02/17/2014 9:49 pm
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Posted 02/17/2014 01:52 am
