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New Member
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Hello,
I have identified this coin as a 1980, KM# 191 2-1/2 GULDEN from the Netherlands. I am using the kp CD 2014 Std. Cat. of World Coins for identification.
Kp lists two 1980 grades;
The first grade is for a 1980 coin with a "Cock and star privy mark", the mint amount of 37,300,000 strikes with a BU value of $5.00.
The second grade is for a 1980 Proof with a value of $650.00. Kp doesn't say anything about privy marks on the Proof coin.
The coin I have has the frosted relief and mirror surface like a proof. It also has the "Cock and star" privy marks.
Is my coin worth $650.00 or $5.00?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Joe
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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These coins have a frosted design, so the surface is they only way we can tell.
Do you own any other proof coins to compare it to? Can you take pictures? It's most likely the cheap version, especially if it's circulated.
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New Member
 United States
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Sorry, I have pics. but I can't figure out how to post them.
I used the saved my post as a Draft, used the Free Image Optimizer and saved new pics under 100K in size. Now when I click on the Upload Image link I don't get the option the upload a pic.
What am I doing wrong?
Joe
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New Member
United States
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My BAD!   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like an "impared proof"...aka circulated proof.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Hmm... probably a normal strike.
I own quite a few very frosty Dutch coins, so they can't all be proofs (unless I have accidentally made thousands of dollars, which would not be bad). The frosting is typical. What would decide it is the mirror-like fields, which I don't really see. If you take a picture of it from above, is your camera lens clearly reflected (enough to make out the little letters and things)? If not, it is probably a very nice circulation strike, but not the coveted proof.
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New Member
United States
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Pictures taken at 90 Degrees. Do you think this is a proof or standard coin?   |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Really hard to tell by the pictures but it does look like a proof. $650 for a circulated proof? No chance, $40 would be closer
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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 I would agree with nalaberong. I was working as a tour manager in 1981-2 all over Europe and saving coins from change, and I remember seeing Dutch coins like this in circulation. Like Swiss coins of the same period, the standard of strike was very high, and really nice circulation coins did exhibit prooflike qualities. Edited by NumisRob
02/20/2014 02:58 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Definitely not a proof, unfrosted letters and normal fields just make it a nice circulation coin. Still, it's nice.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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After further review...I would go with "Proof-Like".
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New Member
United States
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Thank you for all your help.
I think I'll try to sell it as "proof-like" for maybe $50.00.
Thanks again.
Joe K
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It's certainly not, though. There's no Dutch "proof-like" finish (which is a mostly Canadian oddity) and all circulation coins are very frosty (and so are Swiss coins).
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