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Definitely not a Die #2 Strong Reverse. Likely a Die #3 Weak Reverse.

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PCI? Cert #? Picture of the rear of the slab?

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PCI? Cert #? Picture of the rear of the slab?


No real need; the typeface on the slab indicates it's from the "PCI has no clue whatsoever" generation.
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No real need; the typeface on the slab indicates it's from the "PCI has no clue whatsoever" generation.


Is that before they switched to the gold trim, to indicate "they had a clue" ?

I really do love PCI slabs though. You can buy them for dirt and most have some really nice coins inside. Not the MS 70 they claim to be, but really nice coins to crack out and put in albums. Better than buy raw coins that have been handled and tossed about for your album.
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Should have typed a little more. Obviously, because PCI is no longer in business, but it DOES provide an avenue for undesirables to take advantage. As empty slabs are available, somebody could start slabbing coins and passing them off as PCI in green, gold, or red. BUT...there are several versions of the actual slabs, this might be. I would still like to see a picture of the reverse of the slab.

A couple of things don't look right. The color is too bright of green. Green PCI color is darker.

No mintage on the slab.

Reference picture on David Lawrence website:

http://www.davidlawrence.com/invent...lotid/524717
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You have a point regarding the slab - I'd dismissed it because I doubt I'd recognize all of the generations of PCI slabs and this one uses a typeface known for them. It would be an insidious and intelligent way to get counterfeits into the market.
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While the old green PCI slabs were once highly regarded, now they are a definite avenue for counterfeiting, as many old green counterfeit slabs are now showing up.
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I would be interested in seeing the reverse of the slab as well.


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Obviously, because PCI is no longer in business

PCI is still in business I think (under their second ownership since DGS closed down), but they are not using that style of label. That type face and green border were used on the 14 and 9 digit serial numbers slabs for the pre DGS PCI, and by the first post ownership PCI.


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the typeface on the slab indicates it's from the "PCI has no clue whatsoever" generation.

There were later generation that did much worse than these. (unless this is a post DGS slab)
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Here's the slab reverse



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They still have a website.

http://pcicoins.com

They are running a special , in case anyone has any rare coins they need slabbed

10 coins

5 Days

$7 Each
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Have you seen the grading in the newest generation? Not pretty.
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Interesting. EARLY PCI slab? 9 digit serial number. Anybody know? Thank you for posting the reverse.
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Yep, that's a sorta early one. It's PCI 11 issued under the ownership of Leslie Slade. This style was issued from September 2001 through March of 2002 when the company was sold to Brian Beardsley.
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Knowing the rest of the PCI slab history now (via confirmation from others on this post! - thank you!)....I AGREE with the original poster. :)

THIS slabbed coin, by the owner of PCI at the time, GOT IT WRONG! :)

I was more worried about a basement sloooobber working up their own slabs with PCI similar labels.
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Since the very earlier green holders, are the ones most respected by collectors, those are the ones that are counterfeited the most and the ones to be the most leery of.
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