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1945 Mercury Dime, Fb Or Not FB ?

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 Posted 03/01/2014  7:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cobia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I read about the bands being split etc... I am not sure which band I should be looking at, all 3 of them or a certain one ?

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 Posted 03/01/2014  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Usually the middle bands are the last to come up to full strike. This one, unfortunately, is not. '45 P is a tough year/mm to find fully struck to FSB.

edit to add - http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=59030
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03/01/2014 7:33 pm
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 Posted 03/01/2014  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cobia,

Your topic title appears to ask if this coin is mint state (MS) in addition to SB. Although the image is grainy, your dime appears to grade XF at best (two grades below mint state), and it appears to have corrosion or some other surface damage. When you look at the coin, are you seeing abrasions on the high points and pitting on the rims?
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Sorry for the topic title to sound misleading.

When I went onto NGC website they listed 2 prices one for MS and then one for MSFB. Now that you asked your question I guess after reading the topic title it makes no sense, lol.. Sorry about that. I will change it.

I was more trying to understand about Full Band or Not Full Band.
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 Posted 03/01/2014  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a post showing fully split bands. As Dave said, the focus is on the center pair of horizontal bands.

https://goccf.com/t/159081
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So would this be a FB ?

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 Posted 03/01/2014  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cobia,

The last image you posted looks like it would have qualified as a FB when it was BU/MS. However, FB is really only applied to uncirculated dimes. FB adds no premium to circulated grades, so the term is not used for them.
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 Posted 03/01/2014  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cobia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great, Thank You for the schooling. So much to learn it just makes no sense, lol....
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There are some differences in full band coins. The ultimate is to have the bands look like bread loaves next to each other. Many times a is full bands but they are flat with the full split; these are still full band coins, but the highest premiums will be on the rounded bands. All three sets of bands need to be full, and they have to be fully split or they don't make it. The second image you posted is close; however, it still would not get the designation, as it is not split in the center.
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All three twin bands need to be fully split completely along the whole length of the split.
SB's are the result of a combination superior strike and high grade.

arsave I think has the right idea about them being analogous in shape to the tops of twin bread loaves next to each other.

I have seen them referred to as SB's (Split Bands), FSB's (Fully Split Bands), and FB's (Full Bands); all three terms refer to exactly the same thing.

You get a REALLY superior coin when the hair detail on the obverse shows up sharply as well, with an excellent strike, as on earlier dates with Mercury dimes.
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This should help with the split band dimes.
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Excellent post, Coop. Clear as can be.
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Hello Coop,
I just wanted to say thank you so very much for that idiot proof explanation. My search is finally over for this dime. I do have a 1945 s (Trumpet, not micro) but sadly it is not FSB, only SB. :( Know I can move on to my next coin. ;)

MR
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FSB's are a really difficult coin to find.
Seen lots of split band dimes with complete and well defined splits, but only one or two FSB's with loaf of bread tops.
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Here is one I got off ebay years ago that was a Split band reverse:
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