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Any Tips On Cherypicking 68 Rolls Of Wheat

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Any tips on cherry picking through 68 rolls of wheat

I am getting ready to break open 68 rolls of wheat and I am going to sort them by dates and mints.

put aside keydates, semikey dates and anything BU or in highgrade

then check the date with known varieties or errors ex. DDO, rpms

Does anyone have any tips for methods for doing this?

Oh and this is the list I will check against


1909-S VDB (key)
1909-S (key)
1909-S Over horizontal S (key)
1910 With V.D.B. or 09' Reverse
1910-S (semi-key) g4 9.20 vg8 11.50 f12 14.95 vf20 20.70 xf40 39.10
1911-S (semi-key) g4 25.30 vg8 34.50 f12 40.25 vf20 50.60
1911-D Over D (RPM)
1912-S (semi-key)
1914-D (key)
1914-S (semi-key)
1915-S (semi-key)
1917-P Doubled Die Obverse
1922 No D
1922 Weak D
1924-d (semi-key)
1926 S (semi-key)
1931-S (key)
1936 Doubled Die Obverse
1944 D/S Variety 1
1944 D/S Variety 2
1946 S/D
1955 Doubled die
1970-S Doubled die
1936 Doubled die obverse, the date, LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST w/ some doubling.
1941 Doubled die reverse: Doubling of the date and LIBERTY.
1943-D The D is stamped over another D (RPM).
1943-P Should be a steel cent but there are reports of some struck using copper.
1943-D Copper example known
1944-D D over S the mint mark D is stamped over the S.
1946-S S Mint mark stamped over a D mint mark.
1955-D Stamped over a horizontal D.
1955-P No VDB.
1955-P Lincoln Wheat cent Double Die cent.
1956-D D Stamped over a D mint mark.
1958-P Doubled die obverse.
1959-D First year for Memorial reverse, check for wheat reverse.
1960-D D over D RPM
1960 Small Date
1960-P Look for Small Date variety, the 6 has a shorter stem than normal.
1963-D Check to see if the 3 in the date is struck over another 3.
1968-D D mint mark stamped over another D.
1968-D Doubled die reverse, strong doubling in the word AMERICA.
1969-S Lincoln Memorial double die, all design features strongly doubled.
1970-S Small date Lincoln Cent with a doubled die reverse, strong doubling of TRUST & LIBERTY.
1970-S Small Date high 7.
1970-S Level 7. The 7 is level with rest of date.
1971-P Doubled die obverse, strong doubling on LIBERTY & IN GOD WE TRUST.
1972-P Lincoln Memorial cent with a doubled date.
1973-P No V.D.B.
1980-D A shadow of an S mint mark struck above the D.
1982-P Doubling of IN GOD WE TRUST.
1982 DDR
1982-P Small Date copper
1982-D Small Date copper
1982-P Large Date copper
1982-D Large Date copper
1982-P Small Date cop-zinc
1982-D Small Date cop-zinc
1982-P Large Date cop-zinc
1982-D Large Date cop-zinc
1982 S Large Date Copper Proof
1983-P Doubled die reverse doubled, IN GOD WE TRUST doubled.
1984-P Doubled ear, look at the ear lobe.
1984-D Doubled Date
1988 Double Ear
1989-P No VDB.
1990 proof No S
1992 Close AM
1992-D Close AM
1994-P Doubling of the last three columns on reverse.
1995-P Doubled die, LIBERTY doubled.
1995-D Doubled die obverse, strong doubling of the date and LIBERTY.
1996 Wide AM *Unconfirmed
1997-P Doubled Die, look at the ear lobe like the 1984.
1998-P Wide AM reverse Lincoln Memorial cent.
1999-P Wide AM reverse Lincoln Memorial cent.
1999-P There may be double dies varieties.
2000-P Wide AM in America.
2003-P May be doubling of the steps, experts say "yes", mint says "no".
2006-P Doubled Die Obverse
2009 Doubling of the thumb, boot and other features (several known varieties)
2011 Doubling of the letters and shield
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Sort by date and MM then check CC's site for known varieties would be a good start.There are also some errors to look for.
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Quote:
I am going to sort them by dates and mints.

Do this first then check for varieties and errors
Happy hunting and post your finds.
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You never said where you got those. IF you purchased rolls of Wheat Cents that were advertised as UNSEARCHED, don't expect to find anything of valeu. IF you already know they are all Wheat Cents, then you should realize that whoever made rolls of all Wheat Cents already checked out each one. There are no such thing as UNSEARCHED rolls of coins.
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Best advice...one coin at a time!! Hahaha have fun sounds like a exciting treasure hunt
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I know the unsearch rolls on ebay are no good, I only been collecting one and 1/2 months but I learned that lesson one week in when 8 rolls came all bunk. when you add up mint dates production numbers and figure in you should find a average of norm.

Plus who was that mystery group of people puttin Mercury dimes and indian heads into rolls years ago? The cult of the unsearched penny roll stuffers?

i bought them before. Well some times you can still get error coins. I did get one roll only keydates from ebay the seller didnt sell coins it was his dads but that another lie told over the net. I person that been selling parents hoard for 8 years? I mean come on really?

I had a conversation with a guy that had 80k worth of rolls his unsearched are as follows.
the spelling errors came with his message

"500 lot They are MOST definitly not just 40-50s. I will look for Key dates, but get decent amounds of teens, some mint mark 20s and more 1930s and even 30d, 33d, etc that I can even keep track of. My dealer checks them For only the 4 keys and doesn't care much for anything else but over 30+ dollar pennies, he's a big seller in a big city. I get them at wholesale and I have so many pennies, I do the same-- just something like a 1922d or teens 11s/12d etc would I keep. mint mark 30s, and 20's outside of a few I couldn't care less abaout.'

Thats him talking about his unsearched rolls they been picked through twice..and he is nice enough to leave the 3o and 20 ...haha

These are actual my first non dealer not coin realm these from the back of a small old non chain bank. He manager thought he was ripping me off for cost I gave him a extra 20 bucks. I opened account there and deposit a nice set of bills. He was telling me a Wheat penny is only worth half a penny. I was trying to control myself from saying anything.

Its easier to find old collector hoarders and trade them silver coins people dumb Lincoln for silver why I dont know... It funny they might not sell for a hundred dollars but you get a super rare coin worth same amount they wont budget on say a nice keydate and they will trade lighting fast.
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LOL - how did those semi-key Mercury dimes get in those unsearched Wheat rolls? It must have been the cult as you suspect.

It's possible that a coin or two of interest slips through a coin shop review as these folks normally are working quickly through estate purchases and the like. At my local shop, you can expect on average 2 or 3 customers in the store on a Saturday morning pouring through the weekly takes after the shop has done their bit to find anything of interest to them. After that, they are bulked up and sold off to the wholesalers who do their search before posting them for sale on the internet or magazines. The chances of finding anything decent is miniscule, so the marketing scheme is to salt the lot with one or two key coins - one can advertise 'One buyer found a 1909-S VDB - you may be next!!' Or push a smaller Mercury dime passed the shotgun rolled pennies. Reality is that unless you are extremely lucky, you'll overpay for common coins.

Ocala's point on error coins might be valid though. I suspect that many folks look an inch deep. That said, my local shop would glean out the key error coins at a minimum. Unless you are hoarding Wheaties (common ones at that), buying "Unsearched Rolls" is really just buying bulk coinage which to a hoarder, a good deal at the right price.
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I also found some estates buyers for example my local coin shop only sells silver/gold coins I consider them just cash for gold and silver guys pawn not coin shop as the sign outside there store says. they dont want the copper so if you offer them a good low price for everything they might take it and not go through it as they only sell gold/silver. they buy estates and tell people to keep the non silver / gold stuff.

People dont want to take the time to search especially the cash for gold types.
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