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austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 03/04/2014 10:07 am As an MTT collector I have wanted one of these for a while. Of course the issue is is it genuine? Heres a recent ebay purchase(arrived to day) the seller an Italian dealer has guaranteed authenticity. However I am like a trader based in the middle east in the 1890s. I know MTTs just a glance tells me whether the coin is genuine. But this new Italian coin is just, to me, all wrong. It has a coin orientation and worse its reeded. Of course both those features are correct its just that all my instincts say the opposite. I am hoping someone familiar with this coin can comment on it and tell me what to look for to authenticate it. Here is a photo the coin is in the Italian equivalent of a slab( if the coin is authentic it will not remain in that slab for long): Report this Post to the Staff

plonker Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 03/04/2014 1:00 pm As a novice I will give this a go until experts jump in :) 1891 tallero is both reeded edge and coin alignment according to this, http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces19047.html Also compared to this seems very close to a genuine, http://goldbergcoins.auctionserver....7/lot/21218/ Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 03/04/2014 1:55 pm Plonker: thanks that second link gave me something to compare to. MY coin is matching the likely originals in very fine detail Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16817 Posts	Posted 03/04/2014 7:51 pm It is fair to be paranoid about these coins; this is one of the dollar-sized coins being produced en-masse by the Chinese. If you wish to feed your paranoia, check out the fakes in this thread, this thread and this thread. I suppose in part it hinges on the reputation or lack thereof of the seller. Are they someone who is experienced enough to detect most fakes? Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 03/05/2014 01:14 am Quote: I suppose in part it hinges on the reputation or lack thereof of the seller. Are they someone who is experienced enough to detect most fakes? I have never dealt with them before but from a European perspective they do everything right. Heres is their web site. http://www.numismaticasalentina.com...perizie.aspx The way they advertise their service and company gives considerable reassurance. With many European companies consumer protection( by law) is considerably stronger than the USA and therefore the guarantees a company gives usually indicates reliability. I would assume they are well experienced with Italian coins. My problem is I want to be very sure the coin is genuine before I cut it out of the PVC holder. I may take it in to HD Rauch and ask them they are usually pretty reliable. Quote: It is fair to be paranoid about these coins; this is one of the dollar-sized coins being produced en-masse by the Chinese. If you wish to feed your paranoia, check out the fakes in this thread, this thread and this thread. I had searched for and found the second link but missed the other two. that thread from the middle link raises questions for me. I am not so sure that coin is a fake as the thread seemed to conclude. wWhen its compared to on line photographs of PCGS and NGC slabbed examples ( I know thats not a reliable check) there is a very close match with the denticles and positioning of letters. Defintely the other two links show crude fakes. Edited by austrokiwi 03/05/2014 01:20 am Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 03/05/2014 01:17 am Everything about the coin looks fine to me, no red flags. Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 03/05/2014 02:09 am Austro - the rims are the dead giveaway that the one in the middle link is fake. Transfer die replicated the details but not the rims or edge. Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 03/05/2014 07:01 am Austro - the rims are the dead giveaway that the one in the middle link is fake. Transfer die replicated the details but not the rims or edge. LOL Here I am a fanatic about three sided coins and I miss that incredibly obvious point. Report this Post to the Staff
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