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Well, I've exhausted my guides and the info on the web in an attempt to identify the two following coins: 1) Japan Mon with a blank reverse. I know it's Kanei Tsuho from 1636 to 1769. I've learned that the style of 'legs' on the left side symbol helps with identification, but I can't narrow down my date options. I think the reverse is blank, but maybe the circle/blob means something? It could even be a star worn down by a couple hundred years of existence. The diameter is 24mm and the weight is 3.5 grams. Seems to be in better condition than most I've seen on the web. 2) China(?) Cash. Looks like it was made (cast and filed) yesterday! Bright brass, 23mm and 3.4 grams. Just over 1mm thick. Thanks to all who have a look and help out.     |
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Edited by goodwin
03/14/2014 8:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Canada
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Not sure about harshly cleaned - all cash coins seem to have a bit of a grain pattern to them.
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United States
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nalaberong: I was looking at the darker spots around the top Kanji on the obverse and around the square hole of both sides. It looks like the patina has been stripped off to me. Brass usually acquires a dull look as time goes by. I suppose it could have been preserved in wax or lacquered.
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 Canada
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goodwin,
I think you are correct! Thanks for the reference pages - I just wish my Japanese was a little better!
I have 2 questions:
1) Is the dot/star/blob on the reverse just a random blob?
2) Any idea as to the value in this condition?
Thanks!
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Canada
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allranger,
Thanks for the input. I thought the same when I compared the left and bottom characters, but the top and right seem very different.
In terms of condition, it is like this coin was put in a planer and had a skim of metal removed. It doesn't seem cleaned to me, it appears to be more of an uncirculated production-problematic version. Or a counterfeit.
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Canada
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goodwin, Is the same coin on ebay.ie item number 111275691378? If so, that gives me the full information! Thanks! |
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United States
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The second one is a modern fantasy, not Daoguang. The obv. legend is wrong, and the manchu is garbled.
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United States
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Regarding the "Chinese cash coin" (coin 2), the poorly written calligraphy indicates that it was not cast in China. The Chinese inscription on the obverse is xiang fu yuan bao (祥符.宝) which was the inscription used on coins cast during the reign (998-1022) of Emperor Zhen Zong of the Northern Song Dynasty. However, Song Dynasty coins did not have reverse sides written in Manchu like the coins cast during the Qing Dynasty. This website has a similar coin (although from a different "mint"). It is unclear where these coins were cast although there is some evidence that they were produced in Indonesia or Malaysia. Despite what the other website states, these coins are not rare. Gary |
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Thank you jcmworld and manymore. I thought the characters looked wrong, thus I thought maybe a counterfeit. I'll check out the website - and BTW manymore, I usually disregard values I see on the web unless from a credible source! Thanks for the heads up.
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