Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsCoin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

2 Cents 1864 Rotation

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 10 / Views: 2,016Next Topic  
Valued Member
Lex1705's Avatar
Germany
321 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  01:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lex1705 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this a common rotation?
2-Cents-1864-Rotation
2-Cents-1864-Rotation
Pillar of the Community
robbudo's Avatar
United States
2757 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  06:03 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
there are over 1000 1864 2 cent pieces estimated with rotations between 90 and 180 degrees. source:www.rotateddies.com
Pillar of the Community
zxcccxz's Avatar
Canada
5417 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not common at all and a very nice error. Nice find!
Pillar of the Community
ExoGuy's Avatar
United States
4416 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are fairly common. I've personally found a dozen or so that are a full 180 degrees. Those tend to fetch about double the going price, given a perception of rarity and being a curiosity. I've also found a number of the 1864 copper Indians with that rotation. Of course, it's easier to sell these to someone who thinks that they're rare.
Pillar of the Community
westcoin's Avatar
United States
9792 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 90 and 180 degree are pretty common, but the other rotations are tougher in general to find, I made a nice clock set of rotated 2¢ pieces. I think I have 10 or 11 clock numbers I need to pull them out and finish the set.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Pillar of the Community
ExoGuy's Avatar
United States
4416 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WestCoin - That's a creative clock collection idea. What numbers do you need?
Pillar of the Community
westcoin's Avatar
United States
9792 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
What numbers do you need?


It's been awhile since I last looked them over, I need to get them pulled out of the safe and check. I wanted to have a Capital Plastics holder style made and put a clock on it. But they are so small I 'don't think it would work well for a wall clock, maybe a large desk clock?

I started this idea back in the mid 1990's and hadn't thought much about it again until last year. But I still haven't found my rotated side coins I had put away for the project. If I remember I probably will need to try and upgrade a few pieces from the low grades I have (if I can find better examples, that is).

I've been seeing rotated 2¢ pieces sell for WAY too much money for what I believe they are worth on ebay lately. Some sellers ask for 4-5 times value, and they just aren't that uncommon. Now Morgan dollars? That's another story, don't see many of them at all. That would be a good looking wall clock display!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Pillar of the Community
robbudo's Avatar
United States
2757 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  07:59 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recently saw a worn rotated 2-cent piece at a local coin show for $300. LOL.
Pillar of the Community
ExoGuy's Avatar
United States
4416 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One's perception of rarity will much depend upon personal experience. Attending a large coin show, having a hundred dealers and spending an hour or so at just one table, going through his double-row boxes, can be an eye-opener for many collectors. It can lead to a greater sense of which dates and varieties are more plentiful.

There's an area guy who sets up at flea markets whom I see buyong his wares at the shows. These rotated dies are ones that he's constantly seeking. He has a buyer who gives him twice what he's paid or more for the 180 degree specimens. As with any series, there are always the speculators and/or hoarders for whom one specimen is not enough. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with that. It drives the market though. There was once a guy who had accumulated well over 500 of the 1893-S Morgans. The 1844 dimes are yet another date that's been hoarded. Of course, the rotated 1864's are far less expensive to hoard.
Pillar of the Community
robbudo's Avatar
United States
2757 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  11:18 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've hoarded every single rotated 1863 Indian cent I've seen and been able to get in the past 20 years. It has left me with 5 of them - which is nice considering there are estimated to be between 13 and 30 of them!
New Member
daveodd's Avatar
United States
48 Posts
 Posted 04/02/2014  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daveodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1864 Two Cent Pieces with 90 to 180 degrees rotation are quite common.
  Previous TopicReplies: 10 / Views: 2,016Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.52 seconds to rattle this change. Forums