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French Coin With English Queen Inside

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 Posted 03/23/2014  6:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add maudry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,
Strange subject
Thin coin has been transformed into a box as you may see from the outside.
Although the coin seems to have been used a lot since it's tranformation, the quality of the work can still be recognized to have been excellent, I feel.

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French-Coin-With-English-Queen-Inside

But the surpise is inside. The lady on the enamelled picture is the english queen Victoria. By comparing with pictures I have found on the net, I believe she must have been in her late 30. So the picture is almot of the same period than the coin.

Does anyone here have a clue what could be the use to hide Victoria inside a coin of Napoleon III?

Here are the pictures of the inside:


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 Posted 03/23/2014  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
People appreciated the interesting and unusual, then as now.
Thanks for sharing!
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 Posted 03/23/2014  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love those. I need to find one for myself someday.
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 Posted 03/23/2014  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BillSnyder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Strange and unusual!

I like it a lot!
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 Posted 03/23/2014  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Such coins have popped up fairly regularly on the forum - apparently, it was quite a fad with the street vendors of Paris in the mid-1800s to have these locket-coins made. Old thread, pointing to an even older thread. Coincidentally, a few weeks after the more recent of those two threads was posted, somebody brought one of these along to my local coin club. But I have not seen one before with an original picture or message still inside.

As is pointed out in the old threads, they actually needed two coins to make one of these: one with the portrait lathed out and notch carved, the other ground down wafer-thin to fit inside the hole of the other one.
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 Posted 03/25/2014  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin(s). It looks like a harmless descendant of the boite de forcat, hollowed out coins used to smuggle contraband.
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 Posted 03/25/2014  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keepcalmandcoinon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing!
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 Posted 03/25/2014  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A great addition!
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 Posted 03/26/2014  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maudry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all your nice comments.
But does anyone have an idea why someone would put the English queen into this coin?
I got it from ebay UK.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it symbolised the unity of Britain and France against Russia in the Crimean war? There declaration was on the 28th March 1854, joining the Crimean war on the side of the Ottoman empire.
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 Posted 03/27/2014  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nailed it, awallin01.

Now if that unity can be found again... ;) Can Queen Elizabeth fit inside a cored-out 2 euro?
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 Posted 03/27/2014  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haha I'm sure she could :), I was thinking about how coincidentally this is 1 day away from the 160th Anniversary of that declaration-and with obvious tensions at the moment.
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Fascinating - never seen one of these before, although I do have another Anglo-French 10 centimes - overstamped with a Pears Soap advertisement!
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This is cool I have never seen one of these before.


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