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Not Sure Which Forum For This 1955 LWC

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 Posted 03/25/2014  10:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Agrippa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
At first I was just impressed by the condition of this one, so I was gonna put it in the grading forum. But then I did some research on penny errors today and that lead me to look for the VDB, which this one seems to be missing. Then as I was taking the picture to post in the forum and I noticed issues with the "T" on the reverse. Anyone able to help me with any or all of that?



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 Posted 03/25/2014  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When reading up on the 'BIE' cents, the writers noted that the '50s were notorious for having poor dies. The 1957 BIE I posted a week or so ago had similar issues on the reverse as your 1955. I suspect that dies in disrepair or worn allowed metal to flow during the coining process into voids and breaks to form the anomalies we are seeing.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have a couple of die chips on the reverse and the missing VDB is probably from worn dies...although I do see traces of it. Nothing really scarce or unusual.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jamesd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes die chips on the T, this cent looks like it is in a nice MS condition, but I am definitely no expert at grading. Nice cent.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has die extreme die wear that is called a poor man's so called doubled die on the 5 area. It is not one I wouldn't have slabbed.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lighting may take away some of the minuses, but it should come back as a MS-63, maybe a 64 on a good day - limited to what I can see in the pics. The lighting is just too bright to make an accurate call, so keep that in mind when posting over at the grading site. I hope they offer a better overall grade. I was going to say a 64/65 but then I seen the chatter on the picture which shows the close up of the die chip, I'd have to assume that the chatter exists on more of the reverse, and if the chatter is strong enough it will take away a few points.

Typically the Third Party Grading ( TPG) takes points for things that distract from the overall view of the coin. They give plusses for a great looking coin and take away for things that tend to distract. Does this die chip - for grading purposes tend to take away from the "beauty" of the coin? I guess it depends on the grader's viewpoint.

Nice find, if your going to find a die chip, you want one that's going to stand out - and this one does just that !
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Here is one that has a huge die chip on the "T" of cent.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agrippa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Yes, you did catch that doubling on the 5! I didn't see that. Sorry about the picture quality, Coop has been helping me improve that. Still learning.
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I'm thinking you guys take A LOT more time examining each coin than I do. Do you have any tips for doing a better job catching errors yet still keeping my search volume up?
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It not that we spend more time on it, but that we consider what could be on it and go from there. I do look closely at things like die scratches, die flow and die issues that maybe a marker for a coin, so I guess I do look closely. Thanks for posting it.
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I dont know what you purchase or search, but I am willing to give some advice, which should cover most arenas.

If you roll or bag search, I recently posted a topic about a 1964-P die pair showing Machine Doubling, and how to identify markers on the die set so separating them by unique die markers will take less time. If your able to look at a few coins looking for a die chip or die scratches that exist in a certain area, you can put these in piles, or small ziplock syle containers and have only a few piles to go through.

If you open penny boxes obtained through your bank, I would recommend opening a roll at a time and having a few containers / bowls / ziplock containers and some pieces of paper located near the base of each with the years written on them. It really depends what is pulled from the boxes, and how many containers you want to have on your table or desk. You could separate them into decades at first (1950/60/70/80/90/2000+) or do by mint location (Philly, Denver, San Fran).

Ive opened and sorted a box within a Saturday. I first broke the rolls down by decades (1950/1960/1970/1980) and once that was done, I had 10 containers numbered 0-9 for each invididual year.I'd start by breaking down one decade at a time, say the 1960-1969 year.

I only collect copper coins, but I DO have a cheat sheet with the years of the varieties that are from 1982-current that contain a variety that may be worth looking over. So searches by single year goes by faster, if your looking for varieties.


You could create a cheat sheet with the years and mint marks that you would like to search for. A long loose leaf paper with the years and mint marks of the varieties you would like to look for. Then if that year/muint mark is on the list, you can toss that coin into a container for further review once that roll or box has been separated.

Whatever your sorting method, it should go pretty quickly.

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