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Otter New Member United Kingdom 24 Posts	Posted 03/26/2014 6:08 pm I know nothing about these coins - sorry to bunch them up like this, but any information would be great. Many thanks in advance. Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16846 Posts	Posted 03/26/2014 9:17 pm Bottom left: the script is not Arabic, but Devanagari - this coin is from a Hindu country, not a Muslim one. In this case, I believe it is a base-silver half-rupee from Bhutan. It still looks silvery, so it is probably relatively old - the ones from the early 1900s look very coppery. Top centre: "Indian states", but I can't tell much more than that at first glance. Bottom right: also "Indian states", but in this case, I believe it can be narrowed down. At the top of the bottom pic is the number "92", written in the local variant of Arabic/Persian numerals. The coinage of the Indian state of Hyderabad frequently featured the number 92 somewhere in the design, for reasons which are now lost to us. So I strongly suspect this coin is from there. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Otter New Member United Kingdom 24 Posts	Posted 03/27/2014 05:03 am Many thanks Sap, That makes sense as to why they were grouped together, but to me, looked very different in terms of the script. Any idea of the approximate ages of the coins? Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1323 Posts	Posted 03/27/2014 05:12 am Probably 20th century for all three. "92" - Numeral 92 is observed on almost all coins of Hyderabad. It is not the Reginal year of the state or any king or something related to the rank of Nizam or mint identification. It is the Numerical Value of the name "Muhammad". In Islam Prophet Muhammad is praised and honored, therefore Muslims do not want his name to touched with unclean hands or thrown on the floor. For this reason they represent it with the numerical sum. Muhammad: Mim + Ha + Mim + Dal = 40 + 8 + 40 + 4 = 92 Source - http://www.chiefacoins.com/Database...yderabad.htm Edited by andyg 03/27/2014 05:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
wojciech_sz New Member Poland 47 Posts	Posted 03/27/2014 06:48 am How much does this Hyderabad weight? If around 5,5 g I'd guess it's an off centre struck 1291 1/2 Rupee. Report this Post to the Staff
Otter New Member United Kingdom 24 Posts	Posted 05/29/2014 3:43 pm The Hyderabad weighs in at 5.56g - spot on! Report this Post to the Staff
Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 05/29/2014 5:08 pm 92 http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...4745_opt.jpg Mintplace can be found left from the 'Zarb' (struck) or 'zarb-i' (struck at) I think the coin was struck at Haidarabad Almost every kind of these indian coins are minted with a die that is bigger than the plate. So most of the time a lot of inspiration and fantasy is needed to identify the coin. Please find someone who can read arabic (www.zeno.ru or http://www.chiefacoins.com) Some info on the indian coin (bottom right): The regnal year might be off-flan. The other site has the 'zarb' and probably the AH-date off flan The mintplace can be found by comparing the parts visible with the writing on other coins. In the right picture I seem to recognize 'Asaf Jah, Nizam al-Mulk'. So my best guess is this : http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/...-duid-327586 So the date might be AH1286 + RY1 = 1870AD Or.... I am terribly wrong! The site of Chiefacoins (link above) give a good picture of such a coin (Y#15) but that is 1/4 rupee Bottom left is indeed Bhutan, but since there is no date on the coins, an accurate dating is difficult). I have a nice file about Bhutan coins : http://ndlb.thlib.org/typescripts/0...043/1560.pdf The little copper india coins seems also to be from Hyderabad, but from the 18th century Report this Post to the Staff
Otter New Member United Kingdom 24 Posts	Posted 04/03/2015 4:32 pm Thank you Petrus. Very interesting Report this Post to the Staff
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