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1870 Indian Head Cent - "Shallow N"

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Here is a curious though somewhat disappointing one. It's a 1870 Indian Head cent, "Shallow N" variety. The coin has excellent details that show quite nicely at very slight angles, but from a direct view the environmental damage it has sustained is evident. The damage aside though, it does have eye appeal.

One other thing is that the letters 'B', 'T', and 'Y' in Liberty are not as sharp as the rest. Not sure if it is due to a weak strike however. It does not appear to have been caused by wear, though my eyes could be deceiving me. Thoughts?

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Your cent and mine have a lot in common.

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The shallow "N" for this year isn't much more rare than the bold "N." 1871 and 1872 are different. I don't believe there is much of a premium on the shallow "N." Still, good details for what looks like being buried for some time.
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Your cent and mine have a lot in common.


Much in common indeed! Still, they do hold a certain appeal.


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The shallow "N" for this year isn't much more rare than the bold "N." 1871 and 1872 are different. I don't believe there is much of a premium on the shallow "N." Still, good details for what looks like being buried for some time.


True. It seems though that the 1870 shallow N and bold N alternate in value depending on the grade too.
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I love greenies and have more than a few in my hoard.
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I love greenies and have more than a few in my hoard.


Nice! I love the greenish tone as well. It's the thicker verdigris that makes me pull my hair, and I have none.
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I think the weakness in the letters are a strike issue, most likely a Grease Filled Die.
There isn't much wear on that coin and the "unevenness" gives it away.

My question is :
Whit a coin like this (a greenie as Raymo has so eloquently dubbed it) can you stop the continuation
of the corrosion?
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Thank you upstate. I suspected that might be the case. It seems too that the reverse shows the same characteristics in the 'N' in One and 'E' and 'N' in Cent. I don't mind the green toning itself, but the thicker verdigris, as evident on the reverse on the letter 'N' in One, can be a problem. I have read about several methods that can be used to curve/reduce the damage, but it still requires a level of cleaning to remove the offending blotch. I currently have the coin soaking in a type of liquid that has been designed to remove or reduce some of the verdigris without affecting the overall look of the coin's surface. I have used the same on a 1797 Draped Bust with a bit of success, though not as much as I had expected or liked. Time will tell in this case.
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