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The only images I've been able to find of this error are of coins in poor condition (even worse than mine), but from what I've been able to tell, the error is more of a 'closed' last R than it actually being a B. Is that correct? I'm trying to figure out if this one is.. any help is appreciated.   Edit: Fixed my spelling error, BRITANNIAB from BRITTANIAB. |
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I cannot find a listing for this variety for an 1838 Britannia Groat in:
Krause 19th century World coins
Coin Yearbook 2011 (for British coins)
English Milled Coinage - Cope and Rayner
Coincraft 1998 Catalogue of English and UK coins,
or Clayton's British coin values on his website.
? perhaps a scarce variety?
Edited by sel_69l
03/29/2014 11:40 pm
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Supposedly it's a mule - 3 pence obverse with the 4 pence reverse. And of course, now I can't find the site where I saw images of 2 of them. I'll keep looking.
I was actually looking for image examples of the 8 over horizontal 8 variety for that year when I ran across the BRITTANIAB error listing on that page.
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I'm pretty convinced it's the mule as in the images at London Coins and I'm going to list it as such, but would be very interested to hear any dissenting opinions, especially from anyone who knows better about it.
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I'm not sure if it's actually a B, I think it's an R as standard. I think the circulation of the coin has given this appearance, if you look at the second R of Britanniar it look more alike the letter in question-than it does the a B. Here's a link to an uncirculated version, you can see the structures of the letters and then cross examine the difference. Hope this helps. http://www.coingradingservices.co.u...6428&f=o&s=fThis will probably explain the lack of documented existence of the coin with an error like that, the only one I know of for that year is a horizontal 8 covered by a normal 8. And regarding the ones in the link above, considering there very circulated condition I'd like to know how they surmised they were B's. Not to mention the striking similarity of both the coins, they are spitting images on the obverse if you look at the shadowing. Edit: Those two images are of the same coin being sold twice. Extra edit: The coin sold at that auction are most definetly R's at the end. I can't believe it was sold as a B! After looking at the closer imagery of the auctioned coin, it has the same build of a an R. Wow! Edited by awallin01
03/30/2014 2:10 pm
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Yes.. which is why I surmised it was a just a closed R there at the end. The formation of the letter is the same as an R except for the closed portion at the bottom. The 1881 Gothic Florin with the "XXR error" is similar - the last X weakly struck giving the appearance of an R instead of X. Striking issues on inscriptions = variety/error?  |
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I was replying to the fact the listing was titled BritanniarB on london auctions, because that is misleading. Not with what you stated in your original post, and was just giving information on what it was. It wasn't a dig at you, but at the fact that london auctions allowed the sale of a low grade coin with a proposed error-that hadn't been authenticated. The price it sold for is outrageous lol. Edit: And to add, your coin just looks like it was circulation that caused the R to look like that. In my opinion it's not an error. Here is a One Penny of mine, the E in penny looks like an F-this is because of circulation. https://goccf.com/t/161525&whichpage=133Edited by awallin01
03/30/2014 3:21 pm
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I was agreeing with what you had said  I didn't think it was a dig. And I agree with your assessment - especially after looking at an uncirculated example ( http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...066910669152 ). It's also entirely possible it developed a die crack from the left foot of the last R in later die states - it's pretty close together. We'll have to see some better examples of this kind of 'error' before accusing it of being one. |
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Oh cool, I wasn't sure if it looked like I was talking about you-with regards to the ''I don't know who surmised'' part. No worries, thanks for the clarification. Sorry aswell, I've been making some silly errors this week. My brains is operating well.  Edited by awallin01
03/30/2014 5:40 pm
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