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Building A Triple Complex Error Set

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 Posted 03/30/2014  6:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Since this is my 3rd CCF thread on this same series 1988A error, the correct "Subject" line should read something like, "self-ignorance has it's own cost"

As a old-timer in this hobby, I thought I would start this thread and share some of what it was like in my younger years, and end it with how self ignorance on varieties some 20 years back comes to the forefront now in 2014.

My on,off, and back on again cycle of coin collecting began back when Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars were still in circulation, when local coin shops priced circulated Indian cents @ 3 Cents each, and liberty "V" nickels for 8 Cents. Dateless Buffalo's & dated Merc's still in circulation. I would purchase a few Indian's and "V's" a month, only to spend them later..

I can remember how excited I was to receive my 1st brand new 1965 Clad Quarter when they had been released, and being amazed how they could make a copper center in a coin...

As I look back at just how fast time goes bye, and I'm sure other senior CCF members may agree, what was considered common and non-collectible in what I'll call the 1st quarter of one's life, not only becomes collectible a generation or two later, but commands some head shaking premiums...

I'm not just talking about coins here, in my youth the new monthly comic book of your choice had increased to 12 Cents a issue, and packs of baseball cards (with stale pink gum included) were priced at 5 Cents a pack...

I don't recall anyone I knew at that time who would pay a premium to collect any of the above in GEM condition, other then trading 2 or 3 b/ball cards for 1 that they didn't have. I can only imagine how many valuable baseball cards today were destroyed in our school recess card flipping, and other card games. Sometimes as many as 15 of us at a time tossing cards up against the building, with the closest card winning all the ground cards.. I know b/ball cards are off topic here, but would enjoy reading what card games other members here played in the 1960's.

Getting back on CCF topic, just like my youth back then, I find history had (unbeknown to me) repeated itself again, this time it would be the new Series 1988A $1 federal Reserve Notes being issued in 3 different varieties..

I remember contacting Coin World to inquire about a brand new $1.00 note that had a different look to it, one I never seen before..

Coin World replied that what I received from my local bank was one of the new Web Notes being printed in Washington, D.C. (they provided other related info that I can't quote here as I forgot exactly what was said).

Thinking these notes are the new norm, I spent the note, only to learn a few years later it would be one of the key notes in the series, the B-L Block, received at Key Bank in New Windsor, NY.

As a years long subscriber to Coin World, I would also glaze over the BEP published reports, never giving much thought to the D/C and F/W production blocks, runs, etc., only interested in the latest error coins/currency...

The information I received from Coin World on the new Web notes paid off as I found a 3rd print on reverse error note listed on a young, fairly new auction site called ebay. The item description only mentioned that the seller received this note at his bank and is not a collector..
There was no mention of it being a web-press note, and since the BEP was still printing web-press notes, most of the public didn't know of this variety.

I had a strong gut feeling this would be rarer then the B-L Block note I had spent earlier, and I placed 1 crazy bid seconds before the auction's end to secure this would be my note..
{note: ebay was one awesome site back then}...

Aside from having PMG grade this note in 2006, this error, along with my other non-error web notes lay dormant until recently when I started understanding the COPE plate location & related numbering system, showing me how to convert my web serial number to the assigned quadrant plate letter/number location used on the sheet-fed notes..

For years I wanted to form some type of consensus list by serial number, and try locate other owners of notes from this 3rd print on reverse web-press error from the same individual sheet my note was printed on.
I can now thank the Internet for turning my years long ignorance of this topic to insane interest, spending many, many hours all over this website;

http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/lepe.html

Now it's some 20 years after the Series 1988A $1.00 FRN's were printed, and after years of delay, I could now chart the exact serial number plate location & other assigned serial numbers on my web-press notes... I finally met my personal goal of knowing how to draw up a 32 subject sheet chart and provided all 32 serial numbers and plate positions used on the error web-press sheet.. I was also able to draw other 32 subject sheet with serial numbers for my other sheet-fed printing errors..

Note; I believe this is my 3rd (and final) CCF post on my error web-note and want to apologize in advance to members tired of reviewing this repeat, each additional post from my original post contains information I discovered about this Block after the fact.. This should be the last thread on this error type as I can't imagine learning any more information on the Series 1988A.

My G-P Block is part of a triple complex block with production runs from all three varieties (web-dc ~ sheet-dc and sheet-f/w) complex blocks...

I just recently acquired my 2nd G-P complex block and posted the "Wanted" post below;

https://goccf.com/t/172984

in hopes of locating my final 3rd complex block error (would prefer a overprint on reverse error to match the web note), a Fr#1916-G (Block G-P) f/w note..

I do not know how many Triple Complex Blocks have been printed since the Series 1988A web note era, and know my challenge for all three G-P Complex Blocks some 20 years after printing will be difficult as only error notes will qualify..

I see quite a few CCF members (I'm assuming they're young), asking "What should I collect ?", and while it's OK to receive other opinions, the only true answer is "whatever peeks your interest", and you'll know the answer when you view something that kinda "Jumps out to you" where you just have to have it... For me, after years of different numismatic area collecting, I settled on errors, with no regrets...

I notice a number of CCF members never seen, or are just learning about the Web-Press Notes of Series 1988A, 1993 and 1995...

There are still many Webs floating around on ebay, and of all the Complex Blocks, I count only four Triple Complex Blocks, with each Block a different variety...

If anyone is up to the challenge, and want to collect one of each variety, (shouldn't be that costly for non-errors) they are as follows;

All Triple Complex Blocks are from the Series 1988A,

F-N Block -----web-(3 runs)-----FRN/dc-(10 runs)----FRN/f/worth-(2runs)
F-U Block -----web-(3 runs)-----FRN/dc-(4 runs)------FRN/f/worth-(8 runs)
G-P Block -----web-(2 runs)-----FRN/dc-(7 runs)------FRN/f/worth-(6 runs)
G-Q Block -----web-(1 run)------FRN/dc-(7 runs)------FRN/F/worth-(7 runs)

*****I think it would be interesting to see a 12 Note Set with all 12 varieties in complete set*****

Should anyone be interested in collecting a double Complex Block Set from the Series 1988A, 1993 & 1995 Web-Fed/Sheet-Fed Notes, they are as follows;
â-ºSeries 1988Aâ—„
A-E ~ A-F ~ A-G ~ *B-L ~ C-A ~ E-I ~ E-K ~ F-L ~ F-M ~ ***F-N*** ~ F-*(star) ~ ***F-U***
F-V ~ ***G-P & G-Q***

*= my 1st gem c/u web I received from bank & spent.*
***= f/w issue***

â-ºSeries 1993â—„ B-H ~ C-A

â-ºSeries 1995â—„ A-C ~ A-D ~ B-H ~ D-C ~ F-D

*****Other than the four series 1988A triple complex blocks above, I don't know how many other triple complex blocks have been issued from the BEP, as each block would include 3 different design varieties, and with the early passing of the Alexander Hamilton web-fed press, the web design is forever lost, leaving only the D.C. & F/W sheet-fed varieties left to print...

My only interest was in error's, not regular notes, and if memory serves I remember seeing the Series 2006 $5.00 note in 2 different varieties, I don't recall if they were from DC or F/W, or what the Blocks are (that is the only note I can think of that may include a 3rd variety), and will let the real (serious) currency collectors fill me in on what else I've missed out on in the last 20+ years.

Below are 2 of my PMG Certified G-P Complex error notes


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And my years long delay of charting the plate position and assigned serial numbers printed on the reverse side of this web-press note.
Any help in locating other notes from this sheet would be awesome.
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 Posted 05/23/2014  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Impfac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My father reminded me he purchased one of these a long time ago.

It is a 1993, labeled FH(or FR?) 1916-A

It was from a reputable dealer at the Numismatic monthly meeting in Albany, NY... he wanted me to find out what it is worth. It has some wrinkling as if circulated but no creases tears or holes.

It was touted as being on the cover of coin and currency, or a similar magazine (that has become faded).

Any idea what the value is?

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