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The Very Confusing 1963-D LMC Year

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One of the more perplexing years for DDO's is the 1963-D. There is one OBVIOUS DDO with the "3" of the date dramatically below the rest of the date, and it slaps you upside the head when you see it.

Now I ask, what about other possibilities? People see an Under Bar in the "L" in LIBERTY and call that a DDO. What about a curled, multilevel "96" of the date?

This "96" is so clear that you can see the "rolled" effect of the strike on the raised portion of the date. To me, it looks like the date was inaccurately cut in the die, where one portion of the date was dug deeper than the other, giving this really weird effect.

I have about 1.5 rolls of this effect, and most are close to being identical, maybe a weaker strike here and there.

I personally am NOT convinced this is a DDO, minus the rather obvious underbar on the "L" in LIBERTY.

So, what do you all think ? What additional "qualifications" or features should be doubled if there is an Underbar on the "L" ?

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Here are a few I have images of:
1963D-1DO-001
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1963D-1DO-002
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Here is one that we discussed years ago as a different doubled die that was similar to 001, but not from the same die.
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And not to be confused is the 1963P-1DO-011Proof but looking similar to the 1963D-1DO-001:
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This coin has flat field doubling on it. I've designated it on the image.


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 Posted 03/31/2014  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waxemm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It almost looks like the 2nd pic down.
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yep it does, and its designated as 1963D-1DO-002. I have almost 2 rolls of these, maybe a tad bit more than that. I'll dig on John Wexlers site to see if he has a good explanation of whats going on with the date. Its kind of weird to say the least = )
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OK, here is even a more weird twist for this year. many people have asked if a DDO and Machine Doubling can exist at the same time, and I say yes. BUT the Machine Doubling wins out every time.

Take for instance this picture. The coin appears to be a 1963D-1DO-002, it has the same effects as the 1963D-1DO-002 but the Machine Doubling has chopped it clean off. In the center of the pic below you can see the two layers of the 1963D-1DO-002 variety on the "6" even with the MD having taken over. So, in reality, its a MD coin, since the 1963D-1DO-002 is not evedent any more.

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BUT that's not all. It looks like at some point with this negating of the DDO through Machine Doubling, and cutting off the evience, it looks like a Mint Mark Variety is born. I'll need to take a closer look at the die markers if any exist and see if it is on the same die, possibly an EDS version.

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Simply put, this is a Strange Year.
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OK, I may have spoken too soon about the RPM. Its an RPM alright, BUT, I have two different types here. I assumed I would have one.
I'll post the RPM's in a separate thread = )

Its NICE to hit a Homerun of about 75 of 1963D-1DO-002 so far. That's why I like this Hobby, there are surprises around every corner.
Now I am going to post one of the RPM's and finish looking through the other rolls I have for any additional varieties.
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