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1724xf-Au Woods Half Penny Harp On Left Side! Error? Silver?

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Ok I am stuck on this coin I have not been able to find another like it. So any info youguys can give me would be very helpful & Iim very grateful to gain any knowledge on this coin I can please. Thanks,

The coin has very nice strong xf to Au detail, looks silver almost to me & here is the kicker its a 1724 woods Half Cent ok but harp is on the left side like a first type... only 1722 has harpon lett not a 1724 agree? Seepage 45 in Red Book.

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1724xf-Au-Woods-Half-Penny-Harp-On-Left-Side!-Error?-Silver?
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to the CCF!


Unfortunately what you have is not original. Whomever made it used an 1722 reverse but dated it 1724. Still working on an approximate date for you copy.
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So what if I was to send it into pcgs or ngc an it turns our not to be fake? Or how can I tell its fake? What should I look for ? I looked for tool marks an such thank you btw
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Becker copy perhaps? http://numismatics.org/collection/1989.99.134


I do not believe PCGS would slab it. But I am in no way any kind of authority on TPG's so.....?
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Or how can I tell its fake?


By the fact that the die pair does not exist. This series has been studied to death and we must work first with the notion that all marriages have been identified.
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Yes ... asppears as a doctored numerla change ... Syd Martin had done the book on these Hibernias and Rosa Americanas ... he is the current ANS President ... google Syd Martin ... get E-Mail address ... send photos ... allow 1 week response ... he is busy.

The book is over $100 so use the above method.

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http://numismatics.org/collection/1989.99.134

looks like you found it & I would have to agree. Thank you very much! now that I know what this coin is time to figure out what a fair vaule would be to place on this coin. $20 bucks?
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HMMM ... must be asleep this morning ... good use of ANS-MANTIS. The 1723's are the most common ... then 1722 generally ... then 1724 as a whole are the most rare ... I would put a $50 reserve ... start it at $9.99. Let E-Bay do its thing ... list of course under US Colonials. Appears as an original VF from your pics.

Only the pre-and post- patterns are rare. Few people collect these by varieties in the central core group of general issue pieces (1722-1724). I had one of the finest collections of Hibernias & Rosas - see Stacks Americana Sale (January, 2008). Good luck ...

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Huh? Are you calling this genuine, John? Sure looks like the work of Peter Rosa of Becker Reproductions to me.
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I dont know what it is other then what I have learned here from my post. Harp on left of a 1724 is what threw me off about it I have a mint state or maybe proof from the mirrored look but it has a strang stamp very small on leaf I will post itin a lil while.
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Pics not great ... no metrology data ... but its a 1724 type ... regal? ... need in hand ...
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