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Help With This Phrygia Coin

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 Posted 07/23/2007  12:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add happyprince to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
can anyone help me the value of this Phrygia coin?thnx...




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 Posted 07/24/2007  04:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you're sure it's Phrygian, that's more than I can tell just by looking at it - I can't even tell if it's a Greek or Latin legend, there's so little left of it.

The portrait is probably the best clue for narrowing it down. It looks like a typical "Golden Age" portrait, either emperor Trajan or Hadrian, depending on whether he's got a beard or not - I'd guess "not", so I'm assuming Trajan.

"Cybele seated on throne" was a common motif for citied throughout the region to put on their coins, but the seated figure on yours looks far too "casual" - I'd be more inclined toward "reclining river god". Several cities commemorated the Tembris River on their coins in this way; Appia and Midaeum are two mentioned in Sear's "Greek Imperial" catalogue, though I can't find a picture of either to compare it with.

You may be asking, "Why am I wasting my time with identifying it, when you only asked for the value?". That's because a coin which can be attributed to a particular city is easily worth double what an "unknown Greek Imperial" is worth. This value can go even higher if the city is "famous", for example if it's mentioned in the Bible. At present knowledge, $20 would probably be a fair estimate for this coin.
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 Posted 07/24/2007  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add happyprince to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear Sap;
Thnx a lot for your great help.I really take your time.I am surprised to see that you know a lot about coins.This is amazing.I got another help with this coin from someone else.Maybe this may catch your interest...again thnx.
http://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotvi...162&Lot=1841
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 Posted 07/24/2007  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Profile is Hadrian's, with the beard worn smooth. Reminds me of the "Egypt reverse" in imperial "travel series" of Hadrian's coins, showing a scene on the Nile, but it could be another type in this series. Also I think I see an R in the legend on the obverse at 11:00 (part of HADRIANUS?); a Latin letter which would again indicate it is Roman Imperial. I would look for it on coinarchives or wildwinds, but have to go to work now. What is the diameter? The denominations of the bronze coins were sestertius, dupondius and as, depending on the size of the coin and may help identify it further. got to go now...
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 Posted 07/24/2007  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add happyprince to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thnx t360...I will write down the diameter soon...most probably tomorrow.
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