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APCGS Slabbed Fake Coin.

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 Posted 04/13/2014  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsaus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As you can see it cant be a 1926 because it ends on the wrong side of the denticle.

APCGS-Slabbed-Fake-Coin.
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 Posted 04/13/2014  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coinaus is correct, it's not a 1926. Incidentally there are actually two distinct 1926 reverses but neither of them match.

There is only one year in which 3 digits of the date match up with, anyone care to make additional guesses?
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 Posted 04/13/2014  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsaus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it real in your opinion wwwwww. Oh my guess of the same date die would have been 28
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 Posted 04/13/2014  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's an altered date:
- as mentioned above, real 1923s have flat based letters.
- the 9 is rotated anti-clockwise slightly relative to the 2 when compared with genuine 1923s
- the central stroke of the 3 droops down (it's straighter on genuine 1923s)
- the lower stroke of the 3 curves up further than the 3 of a genuine 1923
- the top stroke of the 3 is fat, even worn 1923s have a noticeably thin top

It's not a 1928 either.
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 Posted 04/13/2014  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That a hard one WWWWW,not sure but I think I remember reading that dies were sent from London to Melbourne in 1923 for the 23 & 24 coins,does it have anything to do with that ?
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 Posted 04/13/2014  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It had me stumped for a while too because the accurate shape of the 2 made me assume it was from the 20s but it's actually form a 1933 die with the 3rd digit changed to a 2. Compare the final digit with the final digit of a 1933, it's a perfect match.
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 Posted 04/13/2014  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I see now, the 3 starts at the right hand side of the denticle instead of the left on a genuine coin.
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 Posted 07/14/2014  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add agent86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It had me stumped for a while too because the accurate shape of the 2 made me assume it was from the 20s but it's actually form a 1933 die with the 3rd digit changed to a 2. Compare the final digit with the final digit of a 1933, it's a perfect match.


From what I have heard, the most common date alteration is to change the first 3 on a 1933 to a 2. This results in a coin where the 3 is in the wrong place and the reverse lettering has an indented base.
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 Posted 07/14/2014  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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From what I have heard, the most common date alteration is to change the first 3 on a 1933 to a 2.


Everything has been tried,some more sucessful than others,since the rise of the Internet the Info. is out there so no excuse for lazy slabbers or pro graders.
For the hobby collector on the Internet its best not to touch(IMO) 23 halves,there are just too many heavily disguised fakes out there.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this the same Coin?,if so its back on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1923-HAL...6effd&_uhb=1

For some reason link won't work.

Item No. 141352693757
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 Posted 07/21/2014  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is this the same Coin?,if so its back on ebay.


Not sure about being the same coin but it IS the same seller.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it may be a different coin. The pics are gone from the first one, although the slab apparently said F-12 (from the item description). This one says VG-8.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No it is not the same coin,at least IMO this one is genuine.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That last '23 has some serious issues that would bodybag it at the big 3.
Even if genuine and even if it was in a big 3 slab it isn't worth $895 unless it was say F15 or VF 20. There is a glut of genuine coins in lower grades so buy a better one for that kind of money.
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 Posted 07/21/2014  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with that 100%, it is a troublesome looking coin & you could get a far better raw coin for that sort of money ?
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