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What Would This Edge Be Considered? (Answered: Collar Clash)

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 Posted 04/09/2014  08:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So what would this edge be considered? I love learning all this stuff, you guys are great.
Thanks,
Deborah

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 Posted 04/09/2014  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Off Center?

Need more pics from the edges.

Does this coin have REEDS?

Dated before 1965?

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 Posted 04/09/2014  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a collar clash. Mike Diamond posted this link a while back.
http://www.error-ref.com/collar-clash.html
Nice find.

Best to start a new thread with your coin. Someone maybe trying to search for the information posted on it and would not expect it in a different thread title.
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Quote:
Best to start a new thread with your coin.
I split the relevant parts out into its own topic.
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It is a 1992 quarter. Sorry for the delay, I'm new at this. Here are more pictures.

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The collar is also known as the third die and its purpose is to define the diameter of a coin and apply the reeding. It is essentially a steel plate with a hole in the middle and a die above and below the collar to form the coining chamber. A collar clash occurs when a collar is tilted and collides with a die during striking. The edge of the collar will make an impression on the edge of a die and the clash is then subsequently transferred to all coins struck with that particular die. Collar clashes are usually fairly minor but are most noticeable on a reeded coin due to the scalloped impression left by the clash.
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 Posted 04/11/2014  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the edges on these dimes? They have reeding but would this be a collar problem or Struck Through Grease? I am learning so much and getting better at identifying problems. Got a long ways to go though.
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I posted this Dime (with a collar clash) about 6 months ago.

https://goccf.com/t/160176

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I checked with Mike Diamond about the 1985-D Dime posted here. Interesting comments:


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Mike Diamond:
1985-D dimes are notorious for poorly-struck design rims in combination with a very well-struck edge. It's due to two factors: 1) inadequate upset of the blank, and 2) excessive die convexity (a design flaw).
This dime is also a bit banged up, but most of what you see was present when it emerged from the press.
Mike

So what you see on your dime was the way it was struck.
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 Posted 04/12/2014  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking that but it is good to know for sure. Thank you. Deb
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