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Let Me Get This Straight. Nickel Is Magnetic, Right?

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I have always wondered if nickel, tin and chromium were magnetic metals or not. I always thought that, since Canadian coins of pre-2001 for nickels dimes, quarters and halves were steel, and that all of their pre-2012 loonies and toonies were steel as well, because they stick to magnets, but now, I am guessing since all pre-2001 dimes, quarters, halves, pre-1982 nickels and pre-2012 loonies and toonies are pyre nickel, minus the pre-2012 toonie's aluminum-bronze core and 1982-2000 nickels?) As for pennies, I always thought they were copper until 1982 like our U.S. pennies, before they switched to zinc, however, I now know that Canadian pennies were copper up until 1996, then zinc, and steel after that.

So I'm taking it that, nickel IS a magnetic metal, but just asking to be sure. And what about chromium and tin? And also, will these metals stick to a magnet in their molten form? (I was once told that "liquid hot mag-muh" (quoting Dr. Evil) as in molten metal was non-magnetic) But another good question might be, is mercury magnetic? (I wish mercury would have been a NON-poisonous metal, because, I would have loved to try swimming in liquid metal. Plus I'd like to feel a what a "dry" liquid feels like. That's why I want to get some gallium, I have heard that it is not overly toxic, and it melts a human body temperature. Does anyone know where I can buy a decent amount of gallium, cheap? (I always thought that would be a bad way to die: Drop someone who is almost, if not completely nude in a pit with a giant cube of gallium there is taller than the person, and let that person stand on the gallium cube, as it slowly melts and swallows up the person from their body heat melting the gallium. ) Don't worry folks. That is not what I want some gallium for. I just want a small amount to "melt in my hand, not in my mouth! LoL!
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Yes, Canadian nickel coins will stick to a magnet.
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They will stick to a magnet but make sure to use a strong one, like a neodymium magnet, otherwise, they might fall off due to lack of strength and you may mistake it for a non-magnetic coin.
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From what I understand, purer forms of nickel are magnetic, but the kind one finds in most jewelry is not.
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... an old (regular ferrite) speaker magnet will pickup Canadian nickel nickels no problem.
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older nickels that are made from pure nickel are magnetic.
from 1982 to 2000 they are cupronickel, and are not magnetic.
the newer coins are plated steel, so they are magnetic.

as for swimming or standing on liquid metal, since it's so dense I think the body would probably just bob along on top.
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So I'm taking it that, nickel IS a magnetic metal, but just asking to be sure. And what about chromium and tin?

The only pure metallic elements that are "magnetic", in the sense that they will stick to a magnet, are iron, cobalt and nickel. Almost-pure alloys of any of these elements should be magnetic, too. Pure tin, chromium, mercury, gallium, uranium or any other element on the periodic table are not magnetic.

It is when you start mixing things together that things get interesting, because magnetic properties of alloys are not simply additive. Cupronickel is 25% nickel but it is completely non-magnetic. It is even possible to create alloys that are fairly high in iron, cobalt or nickel that are still not magnetic. "Austenitic stainless steel" is still 70% iron but is nevertheless non-magnetic.

Alloys of other non-magnetic elements can also become magnetic. The rare earth elements are all, individually, non-magnetic but some alloys are magnetic.

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And also, will these metals stick to a magnet in their molten form? (I was once told that "liquid hot mag-muh" (quoting Dr. Evil) as in molten metal was non-magnetic)

No. The property we are for now calling "magnetism" - the ability to stick to a magnet - depends on the microcrystalline structure of the iron. If you melt the iron you destroy its crystal structure, ergo, there's nothing left to stick to a magnet.

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Plus I'd like to feel a what a "dry" liquid feels like. That's why I want to get some gallium, I have heard that it is not overly toxic, and it melts a human body temperature. Does anyone know where I can buy a decent amount of gallium, cheap?

This thread from last year has some discussion about gallium being hyped on ebay as "liquid bullion metal". The pricelist for the bulk gallium supplier I linked to has not changed: 58 cents a gram.

Gallium has some drawbacks compared to mercury. It's surface tension is much lower, meaning it tends to smear and stick to you much more readily. Further, it's much more prone to oxidation.

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I always thought that would be a bad way to die: Drop someone who is almost, if not completely nude in a pit with a giant cube of gallium there is taller than the person, and let that person stand on the gallium cube, as it slowly melts and swallows up the person from their body heat melting the gallium.

People drown in water because the water is less dense than they are, therefore they sink. The density of body-temperature liquid gallium is about 6 grams per cubic centimetre, or about six times more dense than you and I are. So it is even harder to "drown in gallium" than it is to drown in quicksand (with a density around 2 g/cm3) - and, as the Mythbusters proved, trying to drown someone in quicksand is impossible because it is so dense they just float in it like a cork.
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