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Dented Gold Buffalo?

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 Posted 04/12/2014  1:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add eric_f to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi from California!

I've been collecting silver U.S. coins for a while now and have just started to get into gold. (working backwards in time) I received a buffalo that looked like it had a small ding in the rim while in the vacuum sheet. Sure enough, as I extracted it and placed it an air-tite holder it was clear as day.

How much would this devalue the coin, and is it a common cosmetic issue for these? I don't know how much condition plays into the value of modern coins. I'm not too concerned as I got it at a good price, I just love to nitpick the condition of my new purchases. :)

Thanks for the help!

~Eric

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 Posted 04/12/2014  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, looks like a dent, if you bought it second-hand (Meaning not directly from the mint), then it is PMD, reducing the coin's value to melt or very slightly over depending on how bad it looks in hand.

Condition definitely plays a role in the value of any coin. However, for Bullion, the coin is worth atleast melt usually with a premium if it is rare, low mintage or issued by a credible institution such as the US or Canadian Government (Buffalo's Eagles, Maple's, Panda's etc.)

Because it was issued recently and in some quantity, there will be Ten's of thousands of pieces readily available in mint condition, thus making your coin worth melt. Ask yourself: Why would anyone pay the same for a damaged coin as for a similar coin without damage?

If you bought it recently, from a reputable dealer like MCM or APMEX you should be able to return it or exchange it (Which I highly recommend).

Anyway, I you to CCF!
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04/12/2014 1:23 pm
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 Posted 04/12/2014  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^^ well said and 100%

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 Posted 04/12/2014  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eric_f to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the quick replies and the warm welcome! It was APMEX as a matter of fact, and I'll be calling them Monday regarding a replacement. Hopefully it's not too much of a headache seeing as how I removed it from the sheet. This is the first new coin I've ordered so I didn't know if it was just to be expected. In the future I'll go over newly minted coins very thoroughly, preferably with a magnifier.
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 Posted 04/12/2014  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gold4Ever to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Buffalo if I remember right is 24Kt and the Eagle is 22Kt.. 24Kt is very soft and can be damaged easy..

Also I have had 2 different deals with APMEX and both was bad and will never buy from there again.. go with MCM http://stores.ebay.com/ModernCoinMa...047675.l2563
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I've had several orders with APMEX and all have been to my expectations, so I'm hoping they take care of me on this one. If they don't, there's no reason I can't shop elsewhere.

This is a picture of the wrap it was in, you can see the puckered plastic. I thought it was just the over-wrap at first until I removed the coin. It looks like it protected it somewhat as the wrapper's deformation is much more than the coin's. Is it possible it was damaged before it was wrapped or are these scrutinized pretty hard before being sent out?

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 Posted 04/12/2014  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, new here, but I would have to think APMEX's point of view would be you could have caused the damage when you removed it. NOT saying you did, but I'm sure they will look at it this way.
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 Posted 04/12/2014  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eric_f to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking the same thing, but I'll try for the exchange anyway. Hindsight is 20/20.
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Once you've removed it from the plastic it's yours. They might offer you their buy back price but I would be surprised if they do a swap. You never know though.
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 Posted 04/12/2014  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a bummer.

I guess that's one of the downfalls of buying a coin sight unseen and not slabbed from a stock picture.

I got stuck with an ATB 5oz bullion with a lot of big nasty scratches on it from Vally Coin but it wasn't worth paying to ship it back.
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