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1994-1-DR-008?

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OK, there are a few that are very similar, but -008 looks to be the closest. But none of the markers are present including -011 and -015. Thoughts?

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 Posted 04/14/2014  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could get close up images of your coin to match coppercoins 008/ There might be something that will match them up that isn't pointed out on the CC site?
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Hi Coop - I'll take a few shots when I get home later. I pretty much went through each of the similar types (008, 011, 015) and a few that were a stretch just by appearance at CC. None had the usual markers. The coin is in very good shape and the fields for the most part appear smooth so it got me wondering if I found an early state die where there were fewer anomalies on the die and no abrasive face dressing. The plating can look a little wavy, more so in the pictures I took which surprised me a little since things look pretty smooth under 30X magnification. Thanks for checking in...and check back later once I get you new pic's. Is there anything you want me to target in the photos?
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OK - spent a couple of hours trying to identify markers on this 1994 without success. I was able to identify another 1994 of mine as the 1DR-015 variety. These two coins are different. So here are the shots - hopefully captures the details well enough to make an assessment.

Comments: die scratch through loop of second 9

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The images are very small. The one on coppercoins are 400X300. I like the images in the 800 pixel range. Even enlarging your images to 600, I still don't see any markers. The 008 on CC show the roof with weakness in the last two bays. With the second coin, I'm not sure which one I trying to match it with. So please remove the coin not in the thread title. Closer images should include areas around the devices and rim area. That way I can see an fading die scratch that may still show up again the devices or between the devices. Die scratches flatten faster in open fields, but between devices they last a lot longer and remain something after the next polishing. So I'm not sure which one it is at this time.
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Hi Coop - all the same coin. The two reverses are two shots taken with different lighting. The trouble I'm having is being able to reduce the picture to an acceptable file size using the standard Microsoft products. I must reduce, reduce, and reduce again to get the file size right while the picture reduces, reduces and reduces again. Get's to a point where the pictures get pointless.

No pic's of the second coin I mentioned. I was able to line up 2 of 3 markers for that coin. That cent appears to be an EDS coin so I'm guessing the missing marker hadn't been created yet.
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I should have stuck with the iPhone and loop - 1994-1DR-008

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The extra images appear to show the fine scratches around the UNITED area. The Die scratch from the "ED" is visible. You nailed it! 1994P-1DR-008. It is a later die state than the one from coppercoins. Note the tops of the devices in the same image on "TED". See the die flow lines coming from the tops these devices. Also I think I can see the die scratches to the left of "IN".
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Hi Coop - you are correct; fine scratches to the left of IN. The scratch through the 'E' in UNITED can be seen with the loop if you hold it on an angle where it catches light or makes a shadow. Amazing: I looked at that several times and did not see it along with the scratches by IN. What I've learned here is that using both the camera and the assisted magnification (with the eye) allows things to be better seen/realized than one or the other. The scratch through the second '9' that wasn't selected as a marker was probably, to your point, because the die is at a later stage (came after the MDS markers were selected). What an interesting series of events. I'll be checking my -015 later tonight to see if I just missed 'seeing' the third marker reference after all. And I'll be working some other unclassified cents I've been accumulating to see if I can establish their identities.

Thanks for checking back!

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how the heck do you go to copper coins and see all the diff errors? it gives me an error message everytime I click on it?
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It's working for me.
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hmmm none of the tabs at the top will work for me.. errors varieties, about me, design. etc :(
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On the home page, use the search box. It is located here:
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thanks coop ill try that
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